Mythology and the Bible

Right. One true invisible/undetectable magic friend.

John is anonymous hearsay. Can your God provide a thumb drive straight from the source without these middle men like John> Or better yet a direct message conveyed to everyone's brain.

Personal revelations without empirical evidence can and should be considered delusions. The not so curious thing is the frequency with which God revelations line up with youthful brainwashing. If you are communicating with an all powerful God prove it by revealing a cure for cancer, etc.

A good read.
https://www.amazon.com/Annals-Gullibility-Why-Duped-Avoid/dp/0313362165/ref=sr_1_1?crid=VYJ3HMF0CZ0P&keywords=gullibility&qid=1706109803&s=books&sprefix=gullibility,stripbooks,98&sr=1-1&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.18630bbb-fcbb-42f8-9767-857e17e03685

 

I am duped by God? LOL! Good one. The glass of water I drank duped me into thinking my thirst was quenched. I will tell you who is duped...those who think there is no God and that their life is living, and that that is all there is. That was me for the first 26 years of my life.

 

All of history is hearsay.

 

Exactly! We have to believe in power of prayer:

 

Yep, a lot of people don't know what prayer is about.

"6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

As you can see, prayer in this case is what you would call meditation. It's more about putting oneself in a calm state of mind than "getting stuff" or healing disease.

Yes, there are those who are non-Biblical and call themselves "Christian", but the OP is arguing about the Bible - not the 700 club.

 

Did Julius Caesar write "The Gallic Wars?"

 

Your circular reasoning is circular.

 

No.

Is Julius Caesar still alive?

Who witnessed the writing of this "The Gallic Wars?" you're talking about? Can I talk to him? Can I talk to this Julius guy?

Do we have the original manuscript?

Are we able to perform handwriting analysis?

Isn't the earliest manuscript written in the 700s? And this Julius guy lived in the BCs? Sounds like the entire thing was made up by a monk with too much time to write fiction in the 700s.

 

One thing is certain - does not matter if you are a Christian, a Muslim or a Jew - if you are sick, a doctors are more powerful than God:

 

Interesting . . .

Also, this is more common . . .

1. Set up insurance.
2. Make appointment with doctor.
3. Visit doctor.
4. Run tests.
5. Make appointment with doctor again.
6. Visit doctor.
7. Get referral to specialist.
8. Visit specialist.
9. Run tests.
10. Visit specialist again.
and one of a two things.

11a. Find out that they don't know what it was but you've already recovered in the time it took to run the tests.

or

11b. Find out there is nothing they can do about it. You're going to die.
12b. Go to hospice.
13b. Die knowing your life was as meaningless as a carrier pigeon's.
14b. Absolutely nothing. You might as well not have existed.

 

You are right, the same path for believers and infidels, exactly the same path.

 

One main difference.

The believers are comforted in knowing there is something after death before going to the great nothing as long as they avoid the *******s trying to spoil their blissfully ignorant fantasy.

 

I don't know what that means. But okay.

 

Agree – it is much better to believe in a comfortable delusion than in a cruel truth.

The believers are comforted in knowing that after death they will continue to live forever in heaven.
Even better – some believers are even more comforted in knowing that after killing infidels they will continue to live forever with 72 virgins.
Unless…
Unless their children/wife lost faith and cannot imagine how they could enjoy paradise when their loved ones scream from pain forever in hell.
Unless…
Unless they remember they committed sins, masturbated, cheated on their wife, did not help the poor, lied and maybe they will end up in hell.

 

How many times have you been murdered by a believer? Ever heard of straw man?

Didn't you just say that were going to get 72 virgins?

Maybe don't join the Roman Imperial Church? Though actually, they believe you just need to visit the priest and everything is ok.

 

If you didn't guess and if you really want to know I will tell you: I was never murdered by a believer or by an infidel, but what is has to do with our discussion?
And yes, I know what is a straw man argument, but I didn't see it here.
And even I wasn't murdered by a believer, millions of people were killed by believers. I hope you know history, but if you don't just google 'religious wars'.

I didn't say it, I repeat it after some knowledgeable believer:

Don't understand you point. For me a believer is someone who believes in God (I don't care if he/she believes in Jewish, Christian or Muslim version of The Highest Authority)

 

God did not slow down the rotation of the Earth. God changed the perception of time among the participants in the battle. This happens, for example, in people who have been in an accident: they indicate that time is slowing down. In fact, the clock frequency of their brain neurons increases. The Spirit of God can change the clock frequency of a person's neurons at a critical moment.

 

An absurd attempt at an analogy. Modern history supports that Caesar wrote The Gallic Wars. Don't compare modern history to myth and legend from a magic book. History does not support any supernatural claims.

This explains things perhap

https://www.britannica.com/topic/historiography/Ancient-historiography

Historiography, the writing of history, especially the writing of history based on the critical examination of sources, the selection of particular details from the authentic materials in those sources, and the synthesis of those details into a narrative that stands the test of critical examination.

 

The above post is an absurd attempt at reading comprehension.

What's really funny is the part he bolded but showed a complete lack of understanding of by not answering my questions.

 

It’s widely accepted by scholars that the book of John is annonymous and written at least 40-60 years after the events it describes. It was likely revised. It also describes events in a much different way than the Synoptic gospels which makes it unique. It aligns itself with ideas that did not become prevalent in the Christian community until well after Christ’s death.

Ceaser’s account of the conquest of Gaul was written as the events unfolded. Historians disagree with some of his assertions on troop numbers etc . Bias is typical. However the authenticity of authorship is not in doubt.

 

Now you making the logical fallacy of red herring.

Was the post @JET3534 was responding to.

Your post is very biased and unwilling to examine other viewpoints. You've refused to even answer simple questions about it. Critical thinking involves looking at a situation from every angle - not just the ones you like.

Referring to "historians", "widely accepted by scholars", etc. is the exact opposite of critical thinking.

 

Ok Bob.

 

I am a non Fundamentalist Christian. Consequently, I believe that God inspired the Bible, but He did not dictate it. I have read the bible nine times in eight English translations. These readings included the Apocrypha.

I also study and respect the other great religions.

 

It's common these days to simply view serious scientific examination as of less value than personal opinion of casual observers.

But, there is no possibility of supporting such ideas as that.