No charges for Biden for improper handling of classified documents

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  1. Ecgtheow

    Ecgtheow Newly Registered Donor

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    More "Catch Me If You Can" from the leftist side of board?

    Imagine that.

    Only an idiot would think the White House wasn't involved in charging OMB. And you're not an idiot. Other things, possibly. Idiot? No.
     
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    he does not have the authority to claim government records belong to him.

    Moreover,. he can't claim he declassified a document as a private citizen, without proof of that document having been declassified. He hasn't offered any proof. Normal protocol is to memorialize a declassification. Moreover, the FBI inventory list shows a nuke doc in the midst, and he has no authority to declassify a nuke doc without cooperation with the issuing authority

    Besides, declassified docs are still government property.
     
  3. Ecgtheow

    Ecgtheow Newly Registered Donor

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    If the President takes them with him, AS PRESIDENT, they're declassified. And OMB was President the entire time the docs were being moved.

    Period.

    These charges against OMB are a joke. ALways were. And SCOTUS is going to strike them down if they ever get to them -- Hard
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

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    ANd what might that be?

    Like trying to steal the election? Trump did that. Biden did not.

    Like accusing the opposition of stealing the election? Trump did that, Biden didn't.

    Like saying that the press is the enemy of the people? Trump did that. Biden didn't

    Like saying that if you are a 'star' you can sexually assualt women with impunity? Trump did that, Biden didn't.

    Like fornicating with porn star just after you newly wife gave birth? Trump did that, Biden didn't.

    Like paying the porn star $130k to keep quiet? Trump did that. Biden didn't.

    Like saying injecting disinfectant might be a good idea to fight covid? Trump did that. Biden didn't.

    Like saying that climate change is a Chinese hoax? Trump did that. Biden didn't.

    Like asking his generals if he can order the military to shoot at protesters? Trump did that. Biden didn't .

    Like saying he is better at just about everything than anyone? Trump did that. Biden didn't.

    I got plenty more, if you need more.
     
  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking about the election, not the Inauguration...lol
     
  6. The Mello Guy

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    Always with unproven allegations. Does that mean trump was responsible for all DOJ charged when he was president? Why did he jail half his campaign team?
     
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    So why didn’t he claim that in court? Why didn’t he challenge the subpoena in court?
    A: because that’s some BS you made up and not reality.
     
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    Crowd size correlates to election numbers. No one told you this?
     
  9. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Obviously not...lol
     
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    Perhaps you should tell the resident MAGA who point to Biden's rally size as evidence of fraud.

    And the numbers say Biden beat Trump in 2020. Facts.
     
  11. Lil Mike

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    So your response, via 'Morning Joe,' is that Biden is fit as a fiddle, he's fine, and he's innocent. The SC conclusion is simply a partisan hit job that we can ignore.

    OK. It's not the worse response I've seen on this forum over the past day, but it's still pretty bad.
     
  12. Lil Mike

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    I can't imagine his staff allowing that. It was only going to end in disaster...and did.
     
  13. Ecgtheow

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    So now, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi is “the president of Mexico”?

    pathetic

    And Helmut Kohl was still alive in 2021?

    And Francois Mitterand was at the G7 meeting in 2021?

    You people just don't care about America. That's the only conclusion anybody can come to. All you care about is keeping the opposition out of power. By any means possible

    There's a word for that....... Totalitarian? That'll work
     
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    Hey its Nikki Haley's fault! Military took over airports during the revolutionary war.
     
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    Exactly, and I can only think of one reason why they would send him out there...

    SEPPUKU.jpeg
     
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    [QUOTE="Ecgtheow, post: 1074652017, member: 142336"]If the President takes them with him, AS PRESIDENT, they're declassified. And OMB was President the entire time the docs were being moved.

    Period.

    These charges against OMB are a joke. ALways were. And SCOTUS is going to strike them down if they ever get to them -- Hard[/QUOTE]
    Completely incorrect. You should educate yourself on declassification. Since you're new here, I'll give you this link I've posted a dozen times here, because it seems wishful thinking sometimes rules the day. You do seem to be a person who reads information, so here you go: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...rder-classified-national-security-information
    Part 3 is the declassification process described.
    Interesting side note. https://www.businessinsider.com/law-trump-signed-2018-may-punish-him-classified-info-2022-8
     
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    What you gave me as evidence to back your claim was umitigated garbage. I mean, absolute crap.

    An EO from the Bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis? Completely meaningless. Beyond meaningless. Stupidity.

    And a worthless opinion piece from a leftist rag? Even more meaningless and stupid.

    A sitting president can not be restrained by another president's EO. When a sitting PRESIDENT has in his possession Classified Documents, he has the right to do with them as he pleases, short of treason during a time of War.

    Keep trying. You might get one right after a while. Remember the Monkeys, Typewriters and Shakespeare theory? No? Look it up. Keep stroking. I'm wasting my time
     
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    The Inconvenient Truth: America is notorious for its flagrant election fraud.

    "It remains true, however, that flagrant examples of such fraud in other parts of the country have been documented throughout this Nation’s history by respected historians and journalists,[Footnote 11] that occasional examples have surfaced in recent years,[Footnote 12] and that Indiana’s own experience with fraudulent voting in the 2003 Democratic primary for East Chicago Mayor[Footnote 13]—though perpetrated using absentee ballots and not in-person fraud—demonstrate that not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election."
    Crawford v. Marion County Election Bd., 553 U.S. 181 (2008) (emphasis mine)

    By now virtually everyone knows this - even those who pretend they do not. ;-)

    Why would anyone assume that elections in Brazil or Pakistan are less prone to vote fraud?
     
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    I am not counting anyone's chickens. I am pointing out that using an infamous justice system to persecute political opposition will always be unpopular.
    IOW, bad and ineffective politics.
     
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    Just stop, Trump was the President, whether you like it or not he could declassify it. Every President has taken files then fought with National archives, hell Reagon never gave up his diaries. Trump's classified materials were actually locked up and guarded by secret service, Biden's been decades in broken boxes in a f'ing garage by broken lamps. Biden has stuff from when he was a senator, 100% can't have that must be in a scif, Trump has a scif at maralago. Biden somehow had some at his Penn center office that CHINA gave money to build. The diffence between Trump and Biden is Trump's was actually f'ing secure vs Biden's could've easily been seen by druggy kids that are getting paid by foreign governments for information and favor.
     
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    Possibly...

    I've been one of those who felt it was going to be Biden all the way to the end. The Democrats had tolerated all kinds of dementia behavior from him, so why stop now? But now it looks like this might have gone this far. They may be looking to clear a path for someone, anyone, else.
     
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    LOL you guys made Trump, I told you over and over the more you whine about trump, exaggerate about what trump is doing, bring frivolous lawsuits impeachments and indictments, the more you make the arrogant ******* a folk hero. You on the left literally are paving a path for Trump to waltz right back in there. Congrats.
     
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    If your claim were true, you'd have a point.
     
  24. Patricio Da Silva

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    Nothing you provide proves the claim by Trump that Dems conspired to rig the election. All elections in all countries have isolated cases of irregularities. It proves nothing.
     
  25. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He's about right for his age

    Your last comment is irrelevant.
     
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