Old Enough for a Sex Change but Not Old Enough for Sex?

Why in the hell should it be allowed with parental consent?

Apparently consents to mutilating and drugging a child should be arrested.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I had issues with this as a boy. And back in those days this was a really bizarre unheard of Fringe thing. It wasn't all the rage.

I think I would have been targeted for this. I'm glad I grew up in a time before Facebook and talk and all of those things. If I had I could possibly be here insisting on the fact that I'm a woman.

I think children dysphoria is probably something a lot of people go through from time to time. The severity of it would influence whether or not you need to go through this sort of procedure. I don't think that there's nobody that needs this of course there are some people. I think it's way over diagnosed because of the trendiness of it.

Don't worry it's on the down slope. I hate that some people are destroyed over this but a future where that doesn't happen anymore is a good possibility.

 

My thoughts on this is China through tiktok. The algorithmically promote this gender weirdness in order to cause turmoil.

 

I don't think China really runs TikTok. Look at all the cities where the U.S. version of TikTok is office based.

San Francisco, San Jose (tech hub), Los Angeles, Seattle, Austin, New York City, all super progressive places.

So all the people in those cities are running it.

 

post a video pointing chameleon China calling it Western Taiwan and see if it gets removed that'll show you who's in charge of it.

outside of the virulent racism that the CCP has they're the same thing

about that dollars to donuts they answer to the CCP.

You realize that Chinese government has people here in the US right? They can do that.

 

never know what he is looking for....

 

Since I didn't claim that the 76K procedures were all "breast reductions", I'm still failing to see what you think was misrepresented. Can you quote me saying that the 76k procedures were all "breast reductions", especially since I specifically said that the number included breast enhancements as well?

And what is the difference as far as this topic goes. No matter how much comes off, outside of the cases of cancer, it's all the removal of healthy functional tissue

Oh really? I don't see that shared anywhere. Your linked study only covers those in the study.

Since you want to use medical definitions, yes adolescents are up to 19.

Quote the words. Keep in mind that I am not claiming that they aren't part of the reproductive organs.

I already provided the link that shows that legally that is not universal. 6 states do not consider the breasts legally genitals for the purpose of needing to be covered. But if we are going to go that route, then genital surgery has a whole wider range of procedures than just external organs between the legs. Which means that trans opponents are rather hypocritical in their opposition to gender surgery.

 

So every time a child is sick , Government decide if the child can get medical care or not?

I am sorry , this is America and not North Korea.

 

A child making a decision that could possibly negatively affect their lives forever is not the same thing as a common cold. Kids cannot vote, fight in wars, drink or even drive a car, yet you think they know enough to alter their bodies permanently. Yet, do you think an 8 year old has the mental acuity to make life changing decisions? If anything, put an age limit on it like 16 or something, but I like 18 as that is when they are legal adults.

 

I am with you. I am not advocating kids make the decision. As a matter of fact, I do not advocate any kind of surgical procedure before 18, however I will leave that up to medical professional.

My point is parents, doctors , psychiatrist, social worker should make these kind of decision for under age kids and not government.

 

Unfortunately, depending on what state you live in, medical professionals make decisions based off mass media bias as well, not science nor mental stability. There are wacko Parents out there who also like to force their sons or daughters to live the other sex at times. Not many, but a few have been out there. Plenty of wackos out there. The government should enact a regulation with an age minimum. Portland is a perfect example where legalizing drugs is ruining peoples lives. And, I am not against drugs.

 

Everything you said , I agree.

There are states where the government removed parental rights from parents, and kids under 18 can undergo gender change without parental consent. Then you have state where government taking away parents+Kids+medical professional+ Social Worker consent and state making the decision for them.

Honestly speaking both sides are going crazy on this. Less then 0.5% kids are changing their gender and we are spending too much time , too much energy on this.

 

And of that .5% how many are doing so surgically, as opposed to simple presentation? And of that group, what are the age breakdowns?

 

Let's stop doing that too.

 

My dude you're literally the 2nd poster and you're bringing up Trump.
Get a new line.

 

Yes you did.

There aren't 76,000 breast surgeries for teens every year. That was ALL cosmetic surgeries up to age 19. Obviously 18 and 19 year olds aren't minors.

Besides, your point is irrelevant.

Cosmetic breast surgeries are not double mastectomies.

Even though you keep trying to cling to this ridiculous narrative it's not going to work for you.

The difference is obvious. One is to correct what is perceived as adjustment to abnormal physical characteristics, the other is to advance the agenda of the mentally ill transgender proponents.

The medical community may denote 18 and 19 year olds as adolescents in their studies, but they are still required to observe 18 as the age of majority in most states when it comes to making their own decisions, so again.....irrelevant point from you.

I did quote the words in the post. Try reading it again. Or just follow the link provided and read it.

If you want I can screenshot and highlight it for you to help.

We're not hypocritical at all.

Children should not have their breasts or genitals, regardless of how you define them, lopped off, put on drugs that make them infertile, to appease a mentally ill segment of society.

 

no every time a child wants the breasts cut off or to take puberty blockers for no real reason.

that doesn't mean we chop 16 year old's breasts off.

 

They typically do not do breast augmentation or reduction (except in extreme cases) until 24 when your body is considered medically mature.

 

Exactly.

But, it's a red herring anyway.

A transgender double mastectomy on a 15 year old is not in the same universe as plastic surgery to correct a breast defect in a different 15 year old.

It's a garbage argument from the jump.

 

Just like, GOP wants to force a 13 year old rape victim to have baby?

Government decided when to have baby or who can chop off her breast , right? And then claim “ I am for smaller government”.


Make up your mind – do you want small government and government stay out of people’s lives or do you want government to force religious value ( I assume only Biblical and not Koran) on American citizen.

 

China may be pushing some influence on TikTok, but I'm just saying the things you are complaining about (this transgender thing) and the majority of the censorship is not being pushed by China but by progressives in the U.S. who actually are put in charge of the day to day operations of TikTok. Yes, China theoretically may be the one in ultimate control, but China only pulls some strings from far away. Only a very small percent of the institutional bias is coming from China. The administrators in charge of removing videos are not employed by China but are employed by white managers working in the U.S.

 

You might mind speed up there should be no circumstances where it's okay to mutilate children for no medical reason.

 

Yeah I don't believe you.

China's absolutely controlling this.

 

We'll just have to disagree then.

I don't think China gives a crap about this whole transgender thing. Though if you want to speculate it's part of a plot to destabilize American society and promote chaos, who knows.

 

Maybe you should look up the definition of “mutilate” first.

A 16-year-old girl wants to remove her breast is not mutilating. It may be stupid but not mutilate.