Old Enough for a Sex Change but Not Old Enough for Sex?

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I think they do because it sews division in fact I think they're behind it. It comes almost exclusively from tiktok. That's why it was 11 and 12 year olds that were participating in this.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    no but you should
    Yeah it is. Have you ever seen a trans Man's chest it looks like Frankenstein.
     
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    I don’t judge people by their looks, neither should you.

    If people want to look like Frankenstein , let them be .
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    dude, the op made this about left vs right in the opening post

    you need to get a new line.
     
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    I didn't I didn't say they were bad people are unkind because of the way their chest looks. It's a sign of mutilation.
    I don't think they want to. I think they want to look like men. I know that some of them cover up their scars or choose to wear shirts and places where most other guys are shirtless because they're self-conscious about it.

    Leaving behind this figuring scars like that tends to be an artifact of mutilation.

    As far as interacting to with them I'd never say anything to them about it. It's a sign of trauma and people don't really like to talk about their trauma most of the time.
     
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    The article is about breast surgeries. Thus the number should be the number of breast surgeries. If you have something that says differently other than your opinion about what that number means then show it.

    Mastectomies are surgery. Not sure what is so hard about that.

    If you are concentrating on the cosmetic, then how is breast enhancement adjusting abnormal physical characteristics? More like making abnormal physical characteristics in many cases. That said, the procedure still is a corrective to the transgender patient, although, admittedly, not for a physical abnormality. But it is the treatment that works. Do you have anything else that has been actually shown to work.

    That's rather hypocritical to want to claim the medical definition of genitals includes the breasts, and then want to ignore the medical definition of adolescents. Adolescents receive different legal permissions for various things throughout their lives. driving at 16, voting and military service at 18. Drinking doesn't come until adult stage

    Impossible for you to have done so. Neither the word "genital" nor the plural form is ever used in that article. Therefore, the article that you claim denotes breasts as genitals does not do so. Again, the argument is not that breasts are not part of the reproductive organs, although I do disagree with their inclusion since they are for post-reproduction. The argument is that they are not genitals. Your article does not support that.
     
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    From the discussed article:

    The whole article is about adolescents, which is up to 19. Even if the 76K is not all breast surgeries, the fact that at least 2 breast surgeries are among the top 5 means that it happens quite a lot.
     
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    If a 16 year old girls wants to remove her breast, if her parents’ consent and support her, if social worker, medical professional are supportive to that idea

    Who are you to tell her no?
     
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    I haven’t heard so much codswallop since they banned the “Noddy” books
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    Often they have the nicest personalities
     
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    Gynecomastia In adolescent males usually resolves itself over time. The adolescent surgeries are done for social reasons other than medical ones. It really depends on how well the doctor sells the idea to the insurance company whether he gets the authorization or not.
    After 18, if you have the money some doctor will be glad to build you that third breast you always wanted.
     
  12. Reality

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    Trump is not the entirety of "right", he's not even left or right, he's just a demagogue seeking power for its own sake.
    Further: You can be fairly liberal and still think teaching kids to lop parts of themselves off is entirely normal and supportable behavior is a bit too far.
    Same with puberty blockers.
    Etc.
    Progressive left was mentioned. That's not even ALL the left.
     
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    he is the right's choice for President in 2024

    I do not even support genital mutilations like circumcisions without the child's consent... do you?
     
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    He's not even the final republican candidate yet, and news flash the right is not solely contained in the republican party's little finger. Just as the left is not solely dominated by progressives.


    Let's check the record from yesterday:

    Golly! It sure as **** looks like I already volunteered an answer to that question before you even trotted the poor dead thing out to wail on it.

    Maybe if you spent a little more time actually reading what people write instead of inserting your own narrative strawman and rallying against it, you wouldn't end up in situations like these?
     
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    never said it was, if you disagree with Trump's view, you can say so, not one says anyone on the right has to agree with Trump
     
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    Someone with sense.
     
  17. Reality

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    My dude I DID say so, more than once, to you, and you ignored it. So please don't protest so much.
     
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    what do you disagree with Trump about? maybe we will agree on many of those items the right disagrees with Trump on
     
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    ok, so we agree, again, not a problem, not sure why you trying to make it one then
     
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    Gosh I have no idea why I might be irritated with a person who continuously calls me a trump voter though we've had this discussion dozens of times, and demands I comply with a political test to double check. Its ****ing tiresome.
     
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    I have no idea who you voted for, nor do I care
     
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    NOT even close. Sorry. I and everyone I know with a circumcision doesn’t have a mental illness or issues coping with daily life. Try harder. EXCEPTIONS from a rare botched circumcision aren’t a rule.

    However, EVERYONE transitioning has a severe mental illlness, emotional and social issues. ALL of them. Comparing these “surgeries” is ignorant beyond belief. Mine and my sons and just about every other Jew I know were done in literally seconds in our homes.
     
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    You seem to have missed the context of the argument. The claim is that these surgeries are being imposed on children, and thus are mutilation. Can you say that a circumcision not imposed upon a child? Is not the removal of healthy functioning tissue mutilation?
     
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    My dude, you've pulled a 'you're a maga' and 'but Trump' with me in every ****ing thread we've exchanged words in that even tangentially touches politics since that cheeto dicked ****faced loser won in 16.

    Its ****ing annoying.
     
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    you're the one that keeps defending Trump and attacking me, no clue why

    I agree, Its annoying.

    now let's move on
     
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