If Hamas surrenders and releases all hostages....

Usually modern day militaries don’t indiscriminately bomb civilian populations. Did you know that Israel has dropped more bombs into Gaza in the past 3 months than the US did on Iraq in 8 year? Did you know that more than 70% of the homes in Gaza have been destroyed since the start of Israel’s bombing campaign?

Are you familiar with the constant genocidal rhetoric thrown about by Israeli officials? Stating that they’re fighting human animals, wanting to turn Gaza into a Slaughter house, wanting to erase Gaza from the face of the earth, the list goes on.

I know you think the only way a genocide could be happening is if Palestinians were dying by the literal boat load, not that the death toll is small by any measure, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat.

 

I’m always eager to learn. Here’s the definition of Slaughter according to Marian-Webster. Feel free to explain how it doesn’t apply.

slaugh·ter
to kill in a bloody or violent manner : slay. b. : to kill in large numbers : massacre. 3. : to discredit, defeat, or demolish completely.

 

What IS ethnic cleansing? It is the expulsion or killing of a particular ethnic or religious group from an area in order to make an area ethnically or religiously homogenous. Palestinian itself is not an ethnicity. Its a nationality. So, what ethnic group or religious group is Israel trying to expel? Muslim (religious group)? Arab (ethnicity)? If that were true then why wouldn't they expel/kill those same people from their own population (which they are not)?

 

Might want to tell Russia that.

And no, that's not meant to imply that you support Russia or what they're doing to Ukraine. Its to point out that your understanding doesn't apply to all countries. In fact, as far as I can tell, it really only applies to Western countries.

Well...I'd say Hamas are human animals. But yeah, its no different than what Hamas and Iran has said of Israel. Have you condemned them on this also? But here is the difference, Israel has only ever attacked in response to something that was done to them first. And once a ceasefire was agreed upon they kept it, until they were attacked again.

If Israel really wanted a genocide then why would they accept ceasefires?

 

I wouldn’t consider Russia to have a modern military. They run Soviet era tech and haven’t updated their battle doctrine in 50+ years.

My understanding applies to the principals of international humanitarian law governing the use of force in armed conflicts; a concept Israel clearly doesn’t subscribe to.

Have I condemned other countries doing bad things? Yes I have. I also condemn satan and all of his works in case you feel compelled to ask. (Not really though, Satanists are alright by me.)

Israel hasn’t accepted a ceasefire. What are you talking about?

 

Please leave your house as we fumigate it and cut off the power and water.

Why haven't you left? No we won't unlock the front door. Sorry your son died. Not our fault. We wouldn't have had to gas him to death if you didn't have roaches.

Too bad Egypt won't open the back door. Maybe go to the basement as we destroy the main floor? Oh nevermind, now we will destroy the basement.

Some of you are still alive? Great. We cut a hole in the side of the house you can fit through. You can voluntarily relocate now.

Ok. Pest control is done. What? No, this is my house now. You voluntarily relocated.

 

I find it ironic that people care about Palestinians staying behind to protect Hamas terrorist murderers, but not 500k innocent Rwandans, now that was a real travesty.

 

Being that they are not a uniformed military, they dont have any military installations etc., nor do they posess any land, what would surrender even look like?

 

I think you need to substantiate two claims here.

• Palestinians are protecting Hamas
• People don’t care about the Rwandan genocide.

 

That's 99% news reporting bias and timing.

 

That's a good question and it ties in well with the questions in the OP. If Hamas surrenders, will Israel acknowledge it, or claim Hamas persists even after its gone, and keep culling Palestinians?

 

500k innocent Rwandans were slaughtered ruthlessly including entire villages torched.

Yet, people care about Palestinians electing Hamas then staying behind to protect them as meat shields. This is Jihad for too many. Rwandans didn't commit Jihad, they were true victims.

It truly is quite simple. Yet, people are sheep to mass media thus if the news doesn't make Rwanda a priority, then it is not a big deal. Some Mass Media and politicians are defending Hamas terrorists who daily send missiles at Israel and take any opportunity to murder Israelians. I feel for the Palestinians and agree they deserve their own state, but they went the wrong way in doing it.

A simple solution is for Palestinians to denounce Hamas, turn them over and the international communithy at this stage would help them rebuild a Palestine state.

 

Best to keep bombing them then. Can’t be sure of that 8 year old’s affiliations…

 

What percentage of news coverage per day would you say should be dedicated to a genocide that ended nearly thirty years ago? Would 20% make you satisfied that people care? 30%?

Palestinians electing leadership that oppose their oppressors is incredibly understandable, as is the sentiment of not wanting to be forced from your home.

 

It seems to me tnat you are trying to apply standard codes of war to a non standard war. Hamas isnt a military. They are a terrorist group.

An honorable term such as surrender does not exist. They arent all going to turn themselves in for judgment. They will simply fade back into the woodwork.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

 

What percentage of news do you actually think is non-biased? There is no written rule on reporting percentages. They just chooses conflicts that gets clicks.

What percentage of news should report every Missile Hamas sends out?

I am not for either sides version, but the video evidence supports atrocities on both sides. This is a conflict between them, not selecting an incredibly lesser atrocity to support. Because, this has become a political agenda for both sides. It is like people don't believe wars happen where people are killed. Israel has a right to defend themselves, but have gone way overboard. Yet, if they didn't, I bet Hamas would commit another mass killing at the very first given opportunity. There is no clear solution outside of Palestinians denouncing terrorism. Because, Israel will not back down no matter what you nor I think nor anyone else. I think Hamas is intentionally sacrificing tens of thousands of Palestinians on purpose solely for publicity. And, it is working.

 

Who are you saying doesn't condemn that?

Are you under the impression that Palestinians can simply walk out of Gaza today? They are voluntarily choosing to stay? And they are doing so to support Hamas?
If so, what gives you that impression?

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They've tried a few different ways, including peaceful demonstration. None have been effective so far.
The best progress was going on just before the previous Israeli PM was assasinated by anti-palestinian hardliners and Nettanyahu took power and destroyed the agreement they were working on.
Nettanyahu has since been accused of supporting Hamas, prefering them in power so he can say there is no partner for peace.
I don't know if that's true, but I do believe that had Israel treated Palestinians more humanely, it would be far less likely that groups like Hamas could take any significant power.

 

This is a shocking claim. Does this 8 year period you are referring to extend to when the Iraqi conflict began and there was actually a military conquest taking place, or is it a play on words where they pick an 8 year period after Iraq had been conquered and it was a police action where we just shot those trying to set up roadside bombs etc.

If it is the former I find that shocking and would love to see the source of that claim, if it is the latter, that is not saying much of anything because we did not use many bombs during the policing phase.

I suppose the military conquest stage was very short in Iraq, so perhaps it is true. At any rate, id love to see the source for this claim.

 

You may expect Hamas to surrender, release all hostages, and abandon their religious commitment to destroying everyone that they consider to be "infidels" at the same time that Hamas starts tearing down mosques, burning copies of the Quran, and disavowing all the violent teachings of Islam. Sound feasible to you...?

 

Just pointing out this logic could easily be used to justify endless bombing regardless of what Hamas does. Maybe I misunderstood your intent and directed unwarranted ire your way.

 

You clearly didn’t read/understand my question.

What is your reason for thinking no one cares about the Rwandan genocide? What would convince you otherwise?

The rest of your post is fence sitting rambling. Nothing there to address.

 

I guess if your belief is that Israel is not just interested in their defense that you could imagine this to be the case.

I dont personally believe their interest goes beyond defense.

 

Because, Israel gives warning of days and times they are invading sections of Gaza. Plenty of time for Palestinians to stop defending Hamas and get out. Yet, they stay to support terrorists.

It didn't work before, but now that this has become a major catastrophe and the Palestinians have incredible support from many western powers including many in the international community including US politicians, now is the time where they could get what they want if they would only denounce terrorism and Hamas.

Now is the time where Palestinians could get what they want. Maybe, Iran has done too good of a job fanning the flames and giving them the weapons to do their Jihad for them without getting their hands dirty. Palestinians are just expendable puppets for Hamas and Iran's goals.

 

From a Wikipedia article listing bombings during the Iraq war.
“During the invasion, the United States and United Kingdom dropped 29,199 bombs.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...been used,United Kingdom dropped 29,199 bombs.