If Hamas surrenders and releases all hostages....

Wise choice.

How could they have been so stupid as to attack the United States within living memory of our Civil War? Anyone who studies that war has to be impressed by the determination of Americans. They should have figured it out before they went after us.

So, what's with Lloyd Austin and not telling the President he was going to the hospital? Every time I hear stuff like this I wonder if what we think we know makes sense. Geez, when I was responsible for something, I always told other people what I was doing, and that includes times when as majority shareholder I could have done what I darn well pleased.

If the story is true, what kind of leadership is that?

 

What BULL! They could still have fought on and killed hundreds of thousands including allied prisoners. These are the people who brought us the Kamikaze and civilians throwing themselves from the cliffs at Saipan.

 

They had to kamikaze because they were out of skilled pilots and weapons. The kamikaze was their last ditch effort. No, they did not have the resources to continue. A few months under naval blockade, alone, without allies... they would have surrendered. Eventually, the reality of their situation would have set in. The entire population would not be throwing themselves from cliffs, sorry. Especially when they realize that the Americans would NOT be storming their beaches. Dropped leaflets, and other sources of propaganda would have eventually convinced the population that Americans were not the demons they were told we were. They are only human, not monsters.

 

If Hamas surrenders and releases all hostages...

 

Why would there be when non of that happened.

Not everyone so naive btw.

 

You mean like a certain religious whom ALL HAVE DUEL CITIZENSHIP?

 

If Israelis told me this lie one hundred times, it would still be a big fat lie.

 

Bull! Japs had 2000 Kamikaze aircraft and the same number of mini subs and suicide speedboats. They would never have surrendered, some Japanese soldiers held out in the Pacific until the 1970s?

 

I have no use for Tlaib. She's an agitator.

 

There are a lot of reasons Indians in Canada may wish to have both Canadian and Indian citizenship.

 

Lol, the kamikaze was a tactic of desperation, and a sign of just how defeated they were. And they wouldn't even NEED to surrender. They would simply be broken from economic pressure. They would have had no allies, no resources, no support. Their people would have definitely turned on them once civil order broke down, no nukes needed.

 

But, but, there can only be peace once the infidels have been eradicated!

 

Not much to tell. Would be suicide to free Hamas terrorist prisoners.

 

'Netanyahu's proposal to Hamas yesterday, which was that the IDF would spare Rafah -- if Hamas turned over all the hostages and left.'

Hamas didn't accept.

So - Netanyahu: We Will Go Into Rafah and Defeat Hamas

 

Yep, so what are you going to do about these thousands of "signs of desperation"? The Japs pledged 100 million deaths and they meant it.

 

Most likely, but it will never happen.

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Thursday issued an executive order that targets Israeli settlers in the West Bank who have been accused of attacking Palestinians and Israeli peace activists in the occupied territory, imposing financial sanctions and visa bans in an initial round against four individuals.

Those settlers were involved in acts of violence, as well as threats and attempts to destroy or seize Palestinian property, according to the order. The penalties aim to block the four from using the U.S. financial system and bar American citizens from dealing with them. U.S. officials said they were evaluating whether to punish others involved in attacks that have intensified during the Israel-Hamas war.

Biden’s order is a rare step against America’s closest ally in the Mideast who, Biden says, has the right to defend itself. But the Democratic president has pressed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government to show greater restraint in its military operations aimed at rooting out Hamas. Netanyahu denounced the U.S. penalties, which his government was notified in advance, U.S. officials said.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-we...palestinians-80f9e6be6f6a7bb75dc86360ac2fa6ce

The International Court of Justice in The Hague began hearing arguments on Monday on the legal consequences of Israel’s decades-long occupation of Palestinian territories, including East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The six-day hearings, which are expected to address Israel’s actions in areas it occupied in 1967, have gained attention amid Israel’s war in Gaza against Hamas.

The court is scheduled to hear from about 50 nations, including some of Israel’s allies, such as the United States and Britain, as well as critics, including China and Russia.

The Palestinian Authority’s foreign minister, Riyad al-Maliki, opened the proceedings by telling the court that Israel had subjected Palestinians to decades of discrimination, leaving them with the choice of “displacement, subjugation or death.”
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/02/19/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news

What I don't understand is why some can not admit to there being gross injustices committed by both sides. Israel's retaliation, leaving over 25K dead in Gaza, for the OCT. 7 attacks did not occur in a vacuum and neither did the attacks themselves.

 

This still doesn't address the question I asked. What will be accepted by Israel as a credible commitment by Hamas?

 

I don't think an outright surrender by Hamas is a realistic possibility. Ultimately, a lasting peace will only be achieved by a two state solution. An outcome Netanyahu refuses to consider. His position is arguably for perpetual war.

 

Overwhelmed by War, Another Gazan Hospital Is Declared ‘Not Functional’

The largest medical facility still managing to function in wartime Gaza is now a hospital in little more than name only, the head of the World Health Organization said on Sunday.

After a week of siege by the Israeli military, there are only about 20 critically ill patients left at Nasser Hospital — but even that is too many for it to handle, said Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the W.H.O. director general.

“Nasser hospital in Gaza is not functional anymore,” Dr. Tedros said on social media.

Dr. Tedros said on Sunday that some 200 patients remained at the hospital in Khan Younis, in the southern Gaza Strip, and that about 20 of them urgently needed to be transferred elsewhere. “The cost of delays will be paid by patients’ lives,” he said.

Israel has justified its military actions at the hospital by saying that Hamas militants have been using it and other medical centers to conceal military activities, and on Sunday it said it had found both weapons and Hamas militants at the Nasser complex.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/...8566&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc

Inhumane acts are not limited to Hamas.

 

I'll believe WHO and other UN bodies and so-called human rights NGOs when they care about raped, murdered, and kidnapped Israelis as much as they care for Hamas terrorists.

The whole international community is barking and growling for nearly two decades that Israel is targeting hospitals in Gaza, but behold the miracle! there are still a lot of functional hospitals in Gaza that Israel hasn't been able to destroy in so many years. Maybe this time though...here's hoping, says WHO, and repeats the same old tired libels. Maybe this time...then lather, rinse, repeat.

 

I can't speak for Israel. Neither can you. Ask Netanyahu.

 

He won't answer the question, and I think that's because he has no intention to stop, and this "we'll stop when they surrender" line is empty propaganda rhetoric without meaning.

 

So now your crystal ball can read the intentions of Israel in the current conflict? WOW!!! Can you send us some winning lottery numbers?

 

It does not take a crystal ball to note that this "we will stop when Hamas surrenders" line is empty propaganda rhetoric. Again, you need only ask what they would accept as surrender, and you won't get an answer, because they don't have any in mind.

If they don't tell Israeli settlers not to move in, and don't punish those who do anyway, that will also speak volumes.