5x Deported Illegal Accused of Killing 10-Year-Old Boy Walking Home from School

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Five-Time Deported Illegal Alien Accused of Killing 10-Year-Old Boy Walking Home from School
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ing-10-year-old-boy-walking-home-from-school/

    According to the Midland Police Department, on Feb. 8, Ortiz-Olivas was driving a truck when he hit Wise, who was walking home from school. Immediately, police said, Ortiz-Olivas fled the scene, leaving Wise in critical condition.

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    I wonder if that family is gonna be voting Biden. Another death that could have easily been avoided if it weren't for the left's 100% open border policy.

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    Since he has been deported 5 times it would be interesting to know when those deportations took place.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no clue, I could not find that info in 4 different versions of this article. If you are looking for a president to blame I'm guessing this guy was deported during both recent administrations.
     
  4. JohnHamilton

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    Does it really matter? The scumbag didn’t belong here.
     
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  5. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see where you're going with this but I'll bet Biden never deported him.

    Between drunk driving and other accidents, murders during crimes, deaths by drugs smuggled across the border, etc, how many Americans are you guys willing to sacrifice just so you can have your replacements and their votes?
     
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    Thank a Democrat rep in your state today folks.
     
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    That this piece of crap has been deported five times goes to show illegal immigration is a problem that will never go away. It’s been a problem for many, many decades and will continue to be a problem for many, many decades to come….no matter who sits in the WH.
    We have ourselves to blame for illegals coming here. That’s right, I said it. They come here for the jobs that US citizens provide them. Make a law that makes it not worth the risk to hire these people. No jobs…no reason to come here. But no politician wants to make such a harsh law. Because the fact is BOTH sides want illegal immigration to remain a wedge issue.
     
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    What's funny is that the US citizen democrat voters don't realize that THEY are the ones being replaced.

    They're starting to realize it in places like NY and Chicago though, but it's too late for them.
     
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    Actually I don't think any President is to blame. He was caught and sent back multiple times according to US law. That part of the law appears to work. I think we truely need to look at rewriting our border policies now.
     
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    Ya think? Maybe we need get control of the border with a wall and cameras and only allow people in at official check points. Anyone who comes in at any other place is instantly deported.

    People who are allowed in need to apply in advance and be thoroughly vetted. Criminals and terrorists would never be welcome. Those who broke the law and were convicted would be deported. I think that the immigration process should be cheaper, but that will be hard to implement.
     
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    Yep, those americans would be more dead if done by american citizens.
     
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    so if a MAGA driver accidentally runs over someone, all MAGA is evil?
     
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    You know how the left says that a gun that doesn't exist won't kill anyone? Apply the same lib logic to illegals.
     
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    Is having a poor understanding of statistics a requirement for being a republican?

    In terms of policy, n=1 means almost nothing. The relevant information is whether illegal immigrants have higher or lower rates of crime (real crimes with victims, I mean) than others in terms of figuring out their impact on crime. As I recall, their rates are similar or lower than the native-born population. If their rates are lower, that means more illegal immigrants would cause crime rates to go down. But sure, you could always cherrypick a particular case for almost any kind of person to vilify all people like them.
     
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    And then you guys tell me, knives, fists, bats, ect still exist.
     
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    Oh please!

    If an illegal is a bad actor who has offended, sometimes more than once, he, she or they do not belong here.

    Noted that I used the pronoun "they" to appeal your sensitive nature.
     
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    they deserve to go to prison like anyone else, deporting them is a get out of jail free card
     
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    That is false. The crime rates for citizens will always be there. The crime rates for those here illegally are crimes that never would have happened had they not been here illegally in the first place. You do not compare the two groups. You combine them to see if the crime rate is raised or not.

    Also, those studies about the crime rates for immigrants normally includes ALL immigrants, not just illegals. That alone would lower the rate because those that follow the law and come here legally are the ones that do not break the law. Those studies also do not take into account the crimes committed when trying to stay in the US after they enter illegally. Such as using false or stolen SSN's, which is a felony and about 2/3rd (iirc) of working adult illegals commit. They only count violent crimes.
     
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    Let's say you wake up one day to find your car was stolen. If they never catch the thief, how do they know if it's an illegal alien or not? I'm betting all unsolved crimes committed by illegals don't get attributed to them.
     
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    Hey libs, a POC was mowed down by an illegal. Thoughts and prayers, right?
     
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    Finely someone has come up with a solution (not)... lets stop the name calling and work on improving the situation
     
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    Proving my point. Rates are per person. Maybe a way to help you understand is noting that each immigrant is both a potential victim and a potential perpetrator. Our safety is most accurately reflected by how often things happen per person, a rate. If they absorb more crimes as victims than they perpetrate, the net effect on the rest of us is an increase in safety.

    Some studies separate them. Legal immigrants have unambiguously lower crime rates than both illegal immigrants and natural citizens. But even illegal immigrants don’t have higher rates than citizens. I think more than violent crimes should be considered, but any relevant crime should have a real victim to be important. E.g. property crimes.
     
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    This is just the beginning . . .

    Plenty of victims in those Blue states and border states.
     
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    I agree. You should have to insert your legally issued driver's license into the dashboard to start a car, and "pressing numero dos" on the instructions dispatches LEO to the location.
     
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    Victim v criminal are two different measurements and not considered in the crime data that we are talking about.

    ALL crime should be considered. Do you think that stolen SSN's don't affect those from which it was stolen from? You think they're not "real victims"?
     
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