As Trump romps to wins, anti-Trump Republicans wonder: Do I still have a political home?

Nor should he. Neither man should.

 

Have you yet come to the realization that (as Putin said and MSM has finally admitted) the CIA has been operating in Ukraine since before 2014? Have you realized that from the start, we've been encroaching on Russian borders and provoking military aggression? That Russia has very much had the moral high ground on this matter?

 

I vote Republican and keep a clean conscious. Why? Because within the GOP the ruling faction is America 1st, something the establishment of both parties have ignored for decades. Sometimes referred to as MAGA. Of course these leftist globalists will demonize that term at every chance, but within our 2 party system, there can be hope.

 

How has the US been encroaching on Russian boarders because we have an intelligence agency operating on neighboring soil?

I don’t see how anyone could give the moral high ground to an individual that murders political opposition when they start polling too high or making to much noise while simultaneously bombing women and children and threatening nuclear war to anyone that interferes but then again I am not a paid troll either so…

 

Can you explain to me what you mean by “America 1st”? Because republicans don’t support education (except for profit), they don’t support healthcare (except for profit), they don’t support bodily autonomy for its citizens, they don’t support many basic freedoms that other nations enjoy, they support gutting labor law and pushing children to enter the workforce earlier… They are anti-science and against any progress.

The Republican platform reads more like profits first instead of America first.

 

Trump underperformed the polls again. Through the primaries to date it’s -6.3%. The Democrats are over performing polls in the elections since Dobbs by +7%.

The story here is polling sampling is FUBAR. The outlets need to adjust their sampling.

Normies will be fine. It’s the weirdo’s we need to worry about. The Trump base isn’t expanding it’s shrinking.

 

I think the opposite of what you say is true. Most people vote for party affiliation.

 

Probably true of some republicans but not many. What America first means is that government policy should put the interests of the U.S. above the interests of other countries. I don't think the concept is rocket science.

 

So you mean we should move away from international aid and focus on US citizens in areas like healthcare, education, food and housing?

 

MSM gives the moral high ground to Tel Aviv and Washington DC for what's happening in Gaza. How does that work for you? It will be interesting to see how you rationalize that.

Not Russian boarders, but Russian borders. Pay attention. If you dare, review the very clear record regarding what the US and NATO told Russia about eastward encroachment back in the day of James Baker and Mr. Gorbachev.

 

I like the used weapons. Once fired artillery shells. Once fired javelins. LOL.

 

As a libertarian, I really have to contemplate.

Are we really to believe Trump and Biden are the best candidates in a country of 350 million people?

We need better.

 

Same.

The only way for a desperately needed viable third party is for people to put their foot down and demand it at the election box.

The two party system is exactly the ploy that gets people to believe they can't vote for it.

It's all game for those in DC to stay in power.

 

Using the progressive dictionary, moderates are extremists.

Our politics are dictated by the most fringe elements who both believe the majority is on their side. In actuality, the moderates aren't on either side.

 

I do not know any Presidential candidate ever supported a policy, which is bad for America but good for other countries.

This is the myth conservative have preached for past 50 years and this is what majority conservative believes- Democrat / Liberal policies are bad for America but good for international community.

 

USA give the most foreign aid $35 billion USD , but here is the catch , if you compare GNI ( Grose National income) , USA is #21, if you compare per capita then we are # 17.

 

Neither do I but the current president is doing exactly that.

 

No he is not. And this is where the difference between conservative and liberal.

As a liberal I disagree with conservative on most of the issue. But I don’t think conservatives coming up with those policy to deliberately harm America. I think those policies are misguided, some of those policies will hurt America, but I never think those who are coming up with those policies truly want to hurt America.

 

I think the left doesn't understand that many of their policies hurt the country. They think they are doing good. They are not.

 

Trump's values are core Republican.
He doesn't think the US should try to run the world, or ruin the world.

He thinks we should be able to fix somethings at home instead
of trying failed policies in other countries.

That weapons making should not be the most profitable part
of the economy.

That good employment is making things and growing food and
useful things, not getting frustrated in some part of government
created bureaucracy.

Ukraine and Russia had got along for 30 years until Biden
and the neocons arrived and changed all that.
(Yes, technically it is not neocons but
democratization, but is often called 'neocons'.)

 

I agree with that. Left of right, not every policy is good for the country. We can debate about the merits of the policy. But conservative automatically came to conclusion that whatever the Dems/ liberals do are intentionally to harm America because Dems are globalist. That is 100% BS. You can argue Joe Biden’s this policy or that policy will hurt America but help Mexico or Brazil or Ukraine. But the idea Joe Biden and Joe Biden’s supporters loves Ukraine more then America is 100% BS.

 

I think you are trying to make an example or several examples into universal truths. That is hyperbole. I'm a conservative and I only criticize the left for policies that I believe hurt the country. Using terms like "every" and "100%" are hyperbolic and hurt your case.

I'll give you a couple of examples of leftist policies that hurt the country and you can respond to them if you like. The first is maintaining open borders for the purpose of importing illegal immigrants as future democrat voters. If it were really about asylum the left would want asylum applications to occur at ports of entry as the law prescribes. Allowing illegal entry puts immigration out of control and I don't have to tell you about the negative aspects of that. But criminals, drugs and other undesirables can be controlled at a port of entry but not at a river's edge.

Another is support for allowing men to compete in women's sports which is unfair and dangerous to women athletes. There is no excuse for it and no logical reason for it. Women deserve to engage in athletic competition safely and fairly. Doing bad for the many to help the few is bad for the country.

I can take on a huge one and that is climate change. Nobody doubts that there is some global warming. But the data show that it is trivial. The increase in temperature over the past 100 years is only 1 degree C. We started using satellite technology to measure temperature about a decade ago and that technology has found no warming at all during that time period. Yet we see charts designed to scare people with huge increases in temperature which are actually measured in hundredths and thousandths of a degree. Government gains power with the climate scare and people make money from it. It is possible that temperature increases could become more than trivial in the future but that isn't the way the left states it. It states it as a crisis to improve power and control. It costs our society big time financially for the gain of a few and that is bad for the country. Climate is not a crisis but could be in the future. Just tell it like it is. It will save us a fortune.

I don't think all leftist policies are bad for the country but I have mentioned a few that I believe do. Feel free to explain conservative policies that you believe hurt the country and I will respond.

 

Many truths to politics- and many lies.
One is that politicians will try to appear to be what the people want, regardless of who they are. Thus, we choose from marketing images rather than core personal values.
Another is that without party backing, it's nearly impossible to gain a major office. If a party lowers itself to back radicals because they can win- the party is selling out it's own people- and they will.
Another is that people see many issues, and will vote based on one or two, instead of the overall competence of a candidate.
Another is that as the value of personal responsibility has fallen, aided by the fact that free money and benefits buy votes, the dependency on that increases. The political will to use that to gain power and then use power meet the demand increases..... and fiscal management gets so bad it can destroy the nation.

The easy button is attractive, but in the end, the most dangerous choice.

 

I don’t deny many policies from the Left or Right do have negative impact on the country.

The three policies you discussed here. I have 180 degrees opposite view about these policies then you. For the sake of the argument, let’s say these policies are bad for America. But do you think DEMS/ Liberals wants to implement these policies to hurt America?

 

No they want them to enhance their own political interest. They are willing to hurt the nation in order to do that. But hurting the nation is not the motivation. Power and control are the motivation. Don't get me wrong, republicans seek power and control as well. That is why I invited you to respond to that but you ignored the invitation.

I understand that you disagree with my positions on these issues but I was disappointed that you didn't say why. So I will move along and leave you to your opinions. I can only imagine that your reasons are weak.