Illinois judge says 14th Amendment bars Trump from 2024 primary ballot

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    You are dead set right. I do fear he may be elected again, no doubt about it. If he is, the USA will once again become a laughing stock across the Planet and POTUS will not be respected one bit by anyone outside the USA. In fact, there will be quiet latent seething that we have to actually meet/deal with him, we being the Western Leaders and their national electorate. You may laugh, but I am dead set right about that. Your man*** is despised outside the USA even among his own political kind, except of course the likes of Putin, the Chinese bloke and the North Korean bloke but each of them know they are dealing with a child.

    *Rapist
    *Swindler
    *Bordering on pathological
     
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    Allow me to inform you how important your opinion is to me of the politics in my nation.
     
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    Go right ahead!
     
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    I just did. I get it, your TV and all of the leftist propaganda told you to hate the man.
     
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    No, you did not FatBack. You said:

    So, go right ahead....tell me, "inform me' ~ 'how important my opinion is to you of the politics of your nation.'
     
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    His supporters won’t care.
     
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    It's interesting seeing how you have done a complete 180 on this issue. What was it that made you completely change your mind? You were arguing the exact opposite fairly recently. Not that I mean to discourage you from changing your mind to finally support the Constitution, I'm just curious what caused it.
     
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    Lol, think about it, there is no explanation needed, clearly there is absolutely NO importance to be mentioned ;)
     
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    Indeed, this will be soundly defeated by the SCOTUS. And honestly, these judges and activists will be remembered for trying to revive the State VS Federal issue in 2024. It's hard to believe modern leftists are on the side of the racist George Wallace(Alabama) government, but here we are.
     
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    Of course its tied, it's part of the same whole amendment. It's only the proponents of this silly argument that think we can interpret amendments in part and not in whole.

    What's the point of law then? If one section overrules another, that section need not have been written! I cannot wait for the official ruling slamming this nonsense where it belongs: A museum
     
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    Even in part, Section 3 does not say what they claim it does. It doesn't pertain to the President, and it never has. This isn't something that we don't have historical records and judicial precedents on. So many people were convinced by far-left media entities who were publishing what they wanted to hear in an insane case of circular logic. The arguments the liberals on the Supreme Court made were the same arguments I and many others on this board were making. There is literally no other logical interpretation, whether you look at precedent or history. The Section 3 disqualifiers became insurrectionists well accusing their adversaries of the same. And after seemingly losing that battle at the Supreme Court, they are trying to maneuver the same arguments with new phrasing in an effort to be insurrectionists yet again. They are "threats to our democracy" and opponents of our government.
     
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    There was no “change”. Trump participated in an insurrection. All I have said was that until he is adjudicated for said crime, how can he be held to the standard of being adjudicated ?
     
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    You and I know this, but I’ve waisted countless hours trying to get other people to understand this and it just doesn’t compute for them.
     
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    This is so untrue that it leaves me speechless. So, I'll just share your prior statements to prove you wrong. That will do a better job than I ever could.

    There's definitely some hypocrisy here... you got that part right.


    So I ask again, what made you flip 180 degrees on this issue and start supporting the Constitution? You've gone from sharing the opinions of an insurrectionist to suddenly supporting the law. Odd. Cue Jeopardy music.
     
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    Another headline seeking fascist Democrat judge has spoken. This is from the party which claims that the Republicans are looking to end democracy. Yet the Democrats are seeking to bar the Republican presidential frontrunner from the ballot making it a one man race. Can you say hypocrisy?

    When all I hear the phrase, “Cook Country judge,” all I can think of is a crooked judge whose DNA can be traced to Al Capone and the mob.
     
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    It won't. Trump's supporters at this point in time know he's corrupt and don't give a damn. There's probably nothing that would change their mind about him, not even him coming out and saying he hates and despises each and every one of his supporters, which he probably does.
     
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    Was the judge really a traffic-court/misdemeanors judge as some reports indicate?
    I would not be surprised. Lots of low feeders trying to cash in on the hate-Trump campaign.
     
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    Yes, you foreigners must be laughing when a traffic court judge can kick a former president off the ballot in a presidential election without any conviction of any kind. Pretty amazing to see what the lunatic lefties will do to stay in power.
     
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    Maybe in wacko lefty land, but not one singe charge of insurrection much less a conviction. I swear the left must have gotten into Hunters stash on this one.
     
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    Yes, both Fani and Wade were elected to municipal court judge positions. Fani met Wade at a training for newly elected municipal court judges (he wasn't new) and their relationship began. When he was no longer elected he worked as a personal injury/civil attorney who dabbled in petty crime defenses. That's when Fani tapped him to lead the RICO prosecution. He had already been tapping her in other ways. After Fani's District Attorney election she had spent a lot of her savings and ended up having tax liens. Despite this she claims to have had tens of thousands of dollars in cash in her house because her father told her to always have a cash fund on hand as a safety fund because black people need cash. One time he needed $10 to buy coffee because a coffee shop didn't accept his credit card type and he magically has a $10 bill in his wallet. So he apparently told her to keep tens of thousands of dollars in cash just in case she needs to buy a lot of coffee since the safety fund clearly wasn't to pay her bills, it was to reimburse her secret lover thousands of dollars on a series of five or six vacations over the course of about five months. Then she never replenished her safety fund after allegedly reimbursing Wade from that fund with no record of the payments. Apparently after giving Wade all that money her philosophy on a safety fund conveniently seized to exist. It magically only existed for the period of time the court was looking for reimbursement payments. Her father testified for his part of this arrangement and volunteered information that matched precisely with Fani's the day prior and when asked how he knew all this information dating back years and knew to bring it up he said he was prepped. When asked if Fani was present, illegally, while he was being prepped he suddenly had a case of amnesia. He knew he only saw her precisely 13 times over the prior few years, but couldn't remember if Fani was there helping him prepare for his testimony about his relationship with her. Not sure if it's a good or bad trait for a father to commit perjury to help his daughter's career, but it is what it is.
     
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    What Flip ?

    I pointed out what was happening at the time. What are you on about “supporting the constitution” ? I have always supported it. It says “participates in an insurrection”. Now until someone, ANYONE, is found guilty of an Insurrection, then it’s a riot, mutiny, revolt, unrest etc. just because someone calls it an insurrection, doesnt make it that. Hell the Proud boys were charged with “conspiring to obstruct the Jan. 6, 2021, joint session of Congress for certifying President Joe Biden’s electoral victory.”

    Make it whatever you thinks helps you sleep at night. But NONE of them were charged with insurrection.
     
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    :roflol:
    You said repeatedly that it didn't matter if Trump wasn't convicted, it wasn't required and the civil decision from a State was enough. You also said he should be disqualified for violating Section 3 under those circumstances.

    Now you're saying you can't disqualify Trump because he was never adjudicated. When before you said he was and it was the proper remedy and it would be a violation of the Constitution to not disqualify him.

    Everyone can read it for themselves. I guess you won't explain why you've changed your position since you want us to engage in a game or make believe about your prior and current position. I take back my praise for dismissing your prior insurrectiony position since you're pretending it's still relevant to your views. Sad!
     
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    So every time the Orange Stain gets caught committing a crime it’s “Democrats weaponizing” the justice system ?

    Or just your Orange Felon getting caught…..again and again …..
     
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    Nope, but I can help you understand what is.
    Georgia DA being disqualified for knowingly falsifying her testimony under oath in her own court.
    Democrats taking the 14th amendment out of context to take a candidate off ballots
    A NY Judge fining a current leading candidate 400 million for bank fraud, where no bank was defrauded
    Raiding an ex president residence of classified documents he can declassify, but refusing to take any actions against a Senator
    who stole classified documents he doesn't have the right to declassify
    Ignoring our immigration laws to allow 10 million illegals to roam the US and murder Americans

    I myself could care less if Trump fell off the planet tomorrow. And I don't care what you believe.
    But all these first time in history violations are not going to pan out how you think.
    While those like you are blinded by your hatred over one guy, the rest of the voters
    are looking on applying these new precedents to themselves.

    So while you bask in the sun over your Orange Stain unrelenting attacks, all you are actually
    accomplishing is showing the desperation of what Democrats will do to keep power.

    So please, keep up the fight. Enjoy your moment.
    Just like you did when blind Democrats applied the nuclear option to sit federal judges nobody would vote for under Obama with 51 votes.
    That came back to bite them in the ass when 3 conservative judges were confirmed with only 51 votes in one single administration.

    And before you even start, I don't care about the excuses or reasons. I'm just making you aware of what the majority of
    voters are seeing and reacting too.
     
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