Senator calls LGBTQ+ people 'filth,' says most don't want them here

You can't guarantee that because it's not true. The chance that you will be born gay, bi or transgender is completely random and regardless of geography.

Now people might move to more welcoming states as and if they are able but many don't have that choice. I have relatives in OK and there's aspects of that state I love for my own reasons. I also happen to know there are plenty of gay people there. They may not be so open (well the younger ones are) but they are most definitely there.

 

I've noticed that a lot more and another thing I've noticed is that younger gay people just look so ordinary these days. I saw one young male couple just a few weeks back that you would never guess were gay if you'd seen them individually.

 

Thankfully, the poster has tucked.

 

In the past they did and it was not a problem.... because they actually looked like the sex they were impersonating. That is no longer the argument though is it? What they are trying to normalize now is obviously cross dressing dudes in women's spaces. It is the most openly misogynist movement of our lifetime.

There isn't a human on the planet that thinks this autogynephilic clown is a woman. I believe that is part of the thrill for this freak, knowing that he does not pass and forcing people to pretend he is a woman.

 

I would say that they're homophobic too they demand lesbians be attracted to them.

This crap is a circus I can't believe we're letting members of the military cross-dress in uniform.

 

Why do you care?
Is anyone forcing you to wear a uniform from gender you don't identify with?
How does it affect you in the slightest?

 

There is no source that shows treatment does anything.

The only long term study shows clearly that the suicide rate is the same before and after, and the suicide rate only goes down during transition.

So it TEMPORARILY lowers the suicide rate for some of them, but it goes right back up, identically, in the years post procedure.

My performance?

You're the one claiming it saves lives when the suicide rate among youth was 62% lower the 15 years prior to this "save the transgender kids" bull****.

Typically "saving lives" doesn't result in extremely higher suicide rates.

 

The suicide rate for EVERYONE has been increasing.
It’s disingenuous to act like it is just for trans youth

 

Because first they make the creepy little fetish my problem and then they want to involve the public in it.

They are more homophobic than the westboro Baptist Church. Trans men freaking hate gaming because we're not straight and don't want to have sex with them and use our sexual orientation to affirm their creepy fetish.

Over the last 20 or so years I've seen gays and lesbians make strides and public to the point where it's almost passe.

I care because this affects me. They're calling this fruit cake nonsense LGBT. So that includes me.

A bunch of incels that can't get laid put on a wig and a dress and makeup and save their lesbians to try and force lesbians to date them. When lesbians try to create their own space with no creepy weirdos it's unacceptable.

If you ask me why do I get why do you hate gay people so much.

They've reduced us to genital preference that's what they call us now you have the general department no it is sexual orientation you can't have the opposite sex is genitals and be the sex I'm oriented to.

This is autogynophilia. It's a fetish. Since when did being a transvestite equate to being LGBT?

 

Then you can't prove that that sterilizing children affects their suicide rate in any way.

You can't show that "transgender" people have reduced suicide levels in the past 5 years or so.

Thanks for admitting that you made a claim you can't support, and that one of the biggest claims made by leftists regarding "gender affirming care" is completely made up.

 

https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-08/gender-affirming-care-young-people.pdf

Research demonstrates that gender-affirming care improves the mental health and overall well-being of gender diverse children and adolescents

 

This study suggests otherwise.

https://mentalhealth.bmj.com/content/27/1/e300940.full

 

No he can't.

https://mentalhealth.bmj.com/content/27/1/e300940.full

This study suggests it doesn't make a difference

 

Yeah he dropped that nonsense pretty fast.

I found it funny that he claimed both a. Transgenders have a higher rate of suicide without plastic surgery and b. Well it's a small segment I can't give you the numbers

Hilarious.

 

The interesting component about this study as I read more of it. There seems to be a higher correlation between people with severe mental problems in suicide. Whether they transition or not.

So it leads me to speculate that many people with severe mental problems identify as trans. I wonder why that is the case? It seems exposure to therapists might have a heavy correlation with people who say they are trans.

This leads me to wonder if they are being sold a cure all. Or if it's some other form of exploration or if they hear stories on social media that make them think it's the path to happiness only to find out it isn't.

I know a lot of overlap exists between autism and people who identify as trans.

 

Your article is full of lies. I won't go into all of them, but the most obvious one is in the chart where it claims puberty blockers are reversible.

Long term study from Sweden: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

Ran from 1973 to 2003.

Finding?

Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

And now we have the new study out of Finland that @Polydectes linked showing the exact same thing.

 

Exactly. I've been saying that a while.

They attempt to explain away the mood/personality disorders suggesting they are due to societal "bullying".

However, it does not explain why transgenders have 7 times the prevalence of schizophrenia than the general population.

Their baseline for ALL mental illnesses is from 2 to 20 times higher than the general population.

 

I always found that explanation dubious. So when I was a teenager I wasn't out but some people new. Some people even teased me about it. It was never that gave me pause. It was the fact that I was different that certain things would never happen for me. That was what bothered me. Also I always really wanted to acceptance for my family and friends. And I got that mostly. I think gay people that don't get this are the ones that turn to drug abuse risky sex and eventually suicide. I think this matter is a lot more than kids teasing you at school.

Sorry I never bought the bullying nonsense. Now you could probably say societal acceptance but generally society accepts it. You're not going to be barred from employment or owning a house or getting a driver's license or any of that because you're trans. It's just that there will be people who will not feel you as the sex you identify as that's it.

I would say such a huge component of trans identity to the point where it's almost totally based on social views. Maybe they feel that will be more socially accepted.

This really is a sad thing someone that desperate for normalcy will go through that. And at the end they still won't get it.

 

I object way more to the Acclaim that they are a religious state. No they are not they're not allowed to be a First amendment forbids it.

 

Yeah it's an unfortunate phenomenon. Minority groups of people that stand out in some way have always been subjected to that feeling of not fitting in and some form of bullying. Kids especially can be ruthless to those that are too tall, too short, too skinny, too fat, how much money they have, too smart, too dumb, where they live, sexuality, etc etc there's a lot of that.

In the same ways that being different drove kids to become Goths, or form their own little cliques....I think that's the kids that the schools are preying on to push becoming transgender.

These people convince effete boys and masculine girls to start taking drugs and chopping body parts off, and as a reward they get to belong to a celebrated group. That's why they have a full court push on getting into schools: to gain access to converts.

It really is horrifying.

 

I think a lot of people particularly straight people, are probably into not objecting to those sorts of things.

Anytime I hear someone object to it they always preface by saying I take no issue with your sexuality.

Which to me is rather odd thing to say. I think Mardi gras celebrations are departures and sex fueled and lots and lots of fun but if I'm criticizing something about it I don't have to say I take no issue with straight people.

I went to pride parades back before they became really out there to watch hot dudes walk around and underpants. I wasn't going there to do anything Marley upstanding but I don't necessarily think that it was immoral.

Now it seems to be mostly about kink and trans people and that's a little much for me.

 

I'm against the sexual depravity of both. It's one thing I suppose to watch (for heteros) a parade of attractive women a la Rio's Carnival, quite another to watch a bunch of women and men basically copulate in a straight line for several miles.

The main thing I have against a lot of these things is how they try to insert children into their depravity.

 

the deeper lesson to be learned here I think it's being intentionally removed (and I'll get to why I think that is later in the post) and that's to be resilient. To learn to love yourself. This is not something most people are born with it is a skill. You have to work at it some people don't even have to see therapists to learn how to do it. But really this is the antidote to bullying.

well this is an interesting social phenomenon and I was part of it I was a Goth kid as cringe as that is. I know people that I like was the guys that were really tight jeans and I wanted to identify with them so I did. Forming a pseudo tribe. But toward the end of high school almost everyone that was into it wasn't anymore.

What does suggests to me is being in these groups and some learning process. You learn that society isn't the goth kids and the cheerleaders and the football players that's just high School.

I think the same thing that wants to perpetuate that and you adulthood is what's deliberately removing the concept of resilience now that's why

I think it's worse than just picking them into joining a group. It's an effort to make the group persist.

If a 16 year old boy utterly ruins his body with puberty blockers and hormones even if he doesn't have surgery, he'll never grow into a functioning adult man. So it's inducting them into a permanent state of being in a high school click.

It would be like me not ever being able to let my hair become Brown again it would always have to be that real cheap black color that got kids and apparently old ladies dye their hair. I would have always had to wear the weird hat or the funky black pants with the green stitching I wouldn't ever be able to grow up.


And that's the point. The effort to remove resilience is to formulate the myth that there are no bootstraps and that you cannot pull yourself up by them. You need society at large to do that for you. You are too weak you are too broken you are too sad. I does cliche as it is to say after cliche because it's true this is Marxism.

In fact I think the only reason we're talking about this phenomenon of transsexuals so much is the marxification of gender.

I remember between 15 and 10 years ago that's about the time I came out. And everything was focused on gay people particularly gay men. And they were the forefront of this whole social push.

Now they're cast off almost into the realm of enemy or dissident. In fact the people I see that are the most strongly opposed to transient kids are gay men particularly. A lot of us had gender dysphoria I know I did. I wasn't that all a feminate but would I be targeted for transition today I think I would be. I didn't quite fit the mold.

And therein is the way to spot this. If someone is trying to jam you into a mold that is too serve other purposes.

The next thing I think they're going to move to when they've used all the political Capital they can from the transgender people is people with mental illness. We even see it starting they're not mentally ill they're neurodivergent they're not married to divergent maybe you are. When did new trans people will be cast aside they might even go completely against it and start believing that transition is a side effect of these mental illnesses.

Something I heard about this that makes it easier to see is the issue is never the issue. The revolution is the issue.

 

I was all for it when it just pushed the envelope. Ladies showing their knockers or sexy guys walking around in briefs it was just in the cusp of lewd it was adult, it was sexy drunken fun. It bothered me when teenagers started coming and I'm not talking 17 year olds trying to get a taste of adulthood but like 13 year olds and then the people that do the weird puppy thing walking around in all fours with butt plug tails in public. I haven't been to Mardi gras in a decade. Now at pride there are people with toddlers. It's not a family thing.

The thing that bothers me are people that insist on being their toddlers along.

Yeah it's ****ing creepy it seemed to coincide with them going from talking liberties and pushing the envelope a little too full on public fetish on display. It because way less kid friendly around the time the kids started coming.

I think a lot of people get off on that and a lot of people like to play woke.

 

Who are you to describe what those who want America to be great again think? How would you know anything about that? You should keep your comments only to those who hold America in disdain. I disagree with any comments that say LBGTQP+++ are filthy. I would only describe them as embracing perverse behavior.