Is Jesus divine?

Science will end when man or the world comes to an end.. Everchanging science. The Bible is being updated by science, archaeology and understanding of the early world of the Bible. You just won't accept it. There are things we know now that the writers didn't when they wrote of Noahs ark etc. What you look forward to is the unknown - just your hope/ faith.

 

Do you find multiple ways to interpret the second amendment?

 

I would rather over rule the Second Amendment than waste time interpreting it.

 

As a matter of fact, there's not a single word in the bible from Jesus directly. AFAIK, Jesus never wrote a single word down that anyone knows about.

Everything written about him or what he said is 2nd hand at best. And in most cases 3rd hand, decades after he was allegedly crucified.

 

The Bible was NOT written.
It's a concoction of stories from several different authors throughout the centuries.

Constantine, brought a bunch of religious people together and dictated for the most part, what stories he/they would include into a book, they called the bible.
There are plenty of stories that were left out.
The bible is also different in the books in it from the RC and protestants.
And then each translation of the bible is different from other translations.

 

That's true, although I'm going to make some of my atheist friends mad and say that I think we actually do have fairly good evidence (historically speaking) about some of his sayings. It's not much, but enough for some research and discussion, IMO.

 

Correct, there's no real prophecy.
The book of Isaiah, is a book about the tribes/land called Israel.
But most of Christianity view is as a prophecy of a messiah. Which, IMO, it isn't.

 

Are there prayers used that don't pray to a specific deity?
If not, which I am sure there has to be at least 1, then the prayer is declaring a specific religion or god. Out of the possible 1000s there could be.

 

Fwiw, one of Jesus Apostles said that Jesus said and did many more things than have been written. So much so, that were it all written, it would fill the world. IOW, the Bible is not thorough regarding Jesus life, words, and deeds.

 

What if the prayer started out, O Buddah, O Thor, O Brahma?
Or any of these other gods?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deities_by_classification

 

Legislators can't over ride the constitution. Which the USSC over sees.

 

The most popular chapter from Isaiah that Christians like the reference (and I think this is the first one referenced by the gospels) is the so-called "virgin birth" prophecy . . . which wasn't even actually considered a prophecy at the time it was written. And it DEFINITELY didn't have anything to do with the Messiah. It was solely about a few signs that a king would see that would tell him he was about the win in battle . . . and the kid who was supposed to be a sign was born in the very next chapter . . . not Jesus . . . and the king still lost his battle.

 

Dear God, we thank you for our Founding Fathers, our lives, our freedom, liberties, equality, and all the blessings of being Americans. Amen. This would be in keeping with our founding document and the Thanksgiving Day proclamations of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

 

Not to be rude, but it doesn't mean much.
Now I know that most people who want to teach and want to have those words taught remembered, will write them down so they can't be misquoted or hopefully not misunderstood.

The world is a large place. Many many words have been written by many many people for thousands of years, and yet all those words have not filled the world.
Not even sure what that means.

 

Most of Isaiah is about what is going to happen to Israel in the coming days or years, based on decisions being made at that time.

 

God is often the deity used for God of Abraham. Meaning Jewish, Christain, or Muslim.
I am not aware of other deities of the world referred to as God. Capital G.

Sure there were/are Greek, Roman, Eastern gods. But not God.

Our gov't run public institutions shall not refer to any deity specifically.
There's Buddahists, Indians, Eastern(China, Japan, etc), and even atheists that have NO specific god from any religion.

 

Isaiah 53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

 

Changes nothing about what I and @yardmeat are saying about the book of Isaiah.
Objectively speaking, it is not clear exactly what Isaiah could be referring to.
But much of the book of Isaiah is about Israel.

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To whom was Isaiah referring in Isaiah 53
http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/278/ddg#355

Isaiah 52:13-53:12 constitutes what is considered the fourth Servant song. The others are Isaiah 42:1-9, Isaiah 49:1-13, and Isaiah 50:4-9. Also, some consider Isaiah 61:1-3 a fifth Servant song, though the word "servant" is not used there.

All of these songs speak of a Servant called by God to lead the nations. There is no clear referent within Isaiah itself as to the identity of this Servant. The identity of the Servant is even said to be hidden at points (Isaiah 49:2). For this reason, several interpretations have emerged.

One traditional Jewish interpretation is that the Servant is a metaphor for the nation of Israel. This interpretation is especially shaped by Isaiah 49:3 - "And he said to me, 'You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.'" One problem with this interpretation, though, is raised by verses 49:5-6. There we see that the Servant is formed to bring Israel back to the LORD. This servant Israel therefore seems separate from the nation Israel.
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/278/to-whom-was-isaiah-referring-in-isaiah-53#355

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The book can be read as an extended meditation on the destiny of Jerusalem into and after the Exile.[10] The Deutero-Isaian part of the book describes how God will make Jerusalem the centre of his worldwide rule through a royal saviour (a messiah) who will destroy the oppressor (Babylon); this messiah is the Persian king Cyrus the Great, who is merely the agent who brings about Yahweh's kingship.[11] Isaiah speaks out against corrupt leaders and for the disadvantaged, and roots righteousness in God's holiness rather than in Israel's covenant.[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Isaiah

 

Our Founders refer to him in the DOI and Thanksgiving Proclamation as Creator, Natures God, Supreme judge of the world, Divine providence, Almighty God, great and glorious being, author of all that is good, and Lord and ruler of nations. So I think that referring to him simply as God is generic. And he should be thanked if we are a thankful people. It isn't illegal. It's foundational to everything, even to our laws and form or government were it not for the God of our Fathers.

 

They also explicitly stated that the US, in no sense, is a Christian nation. And neither the DOI nor the Thanksgiving Proclamation was a founding document for our government.

 

So? It is founded on God. And there is noting more foundational than our Declaration of Independence.

 

Legislators interpret the Constitution, and obey the will of the electorate.

 

I would ask you do you pray to?

 

God.

 

I will dismiss this as from an unbeliever that with his mind made up and his comments are nothing new and to be expected.