Folks, I am Non-Binary.

Politically speaking that is. You see, I can't stand Joe Biden and I can't stand Donald Trump.

I'm not going to vote for one of them over the other just because they are one of the two binary choices available in our self-imposed two candidate system.

The fact that I don't like Joe Biden does not make Trump better. Likewise, not liking Donald Trump does not make Joe Biden better.

So I will not vote for either of them. If there isn't a suitable third party candidate, I'll write in myself.

I'm sure at least some of the people who read this foamed at the mouth a little at the thought of being able to tell me I was wasting my vote or just helping the other guy, yada yada yada.

I don't care. I don't see giving my vote to a worthy candidate(even if it has to be myself) as ever "throwing my vote away".

Giving your vote to the dumpster fire your party tells you to vote for seems to be the epitome of throwing away your vote.

 

problem solved! Lets just all write in @Junkieturtle on the ballots

 

I would never vote for either of the two elderly, crooked, sex offenders either. Unfortunately, the two are accurate reflections of the average American. Rude and mindless!

 

I'm not American but I'd vote Biden, just to stop Trump, who is dangerous.

 

Great News! If you come now, free room, board, food, pre-paid debit card courtesy of US citizens and a state job! Just make sure to NOT try it legally. Then you'll get nothing.

 

I don't think its a big deal to skip voting when you don't like either candidate.

 

I cannot morally vote for someone based on my emotional like/dislikes of them. I have vote for the practical future and success of everyone I care about, mainly my children, and the success of America. Right now that's Trump.

Idealism isn't realistic or ideal.

 

I don't vote for a candidate to help me be successful. I rely on myself for that. That being said, I will once again vote third party given the two buffoons representing the two major parties.

 

You still need them to stay out of the way. Biden has done everything to get in ours.

 

Very good post.

I am thinking same way – I am so “ho-li-er-than-thou” that I come online and tell everyone I am better then all the politician , I will write my name as POTUS .

And if Trump or Biden get elected and destroy America, I will come online and write “ I told you so” .

Again .. I am so , so better then everyone else, I must write in my name.

 

Actually your vote is for either Trump or Harris.
Pretty sure Biden will get 25th as fast as he's elected.

Huh. Come to think of it, Trump could be impeached (for real this time) or even 25th.
Wonder who his VP will be?

 

I'm considering whether to skip voting, since voting for one or the other implies that I think the candidate is fit to be President.

Of course, I'm not in a purple state, so voting is meaningless anyway. (Actually, since I've never voted in an election where my choice won by a single vote, my vote has been meaningless for the last few decades.)

 

If he's smart. Someone who would scare the left more like Ramaswamy who plans to demolish the education department, FBI, etc..

 

While you are not the most rabid leftist that ever walked the planet, I have seen enough from you to know that you fall squarely on the left side of the political spectrum.

With that being the case, the fact that you will not vote for the candidate from the right is not newsworthy. What stands out is that as a leftist, you have concluded that Biden is not worthy of your vote.

The bigger question is how many others from the left have the same opinion? Similarly, there are never Trumper rightists, but Im not sure that their numbers have changed all that much since 2016 or 2020.

 

Why would Trump be dangerous? Or, are you just going to quote the lefty narrative of Trump wants to do this, might do that, could do this, would maybe do that, might have done this, tried to do that? 70% of Americans say that the country is going in the wrong direction under Biden. Biden actually is dangerous, not could be.

 

Problem is, I don't feel Trump is any better for America than Biden. He's unhinged, self-obsessed, and has not the slightest clue about leading or building or any of the things necessary to actually run a country. So it's that or the other guy who probably doesn't remember who he is.

Neither man is the better choice unless we're talking about who should retire. In that, they are both the best choice.

 

No you haven't. I'm a moderate and I always have been. Maybe by 2005 standards could you call me a liberal. Socially I lean more left, but that's it. What you've probably seen is me arguing against stupidity.

Hereagain, you're just assuming. I've never been a Biden supporter. I voted for Obama in 2008, but haven't voted for a Democrat for president other than writing in Tulsi Gabbard in 2020. I would have been willing to do that again this year but she went off the deep end. Not by leaving the Democratic party, I don't blame her for that, but by campaigning for Kari Lake. That's supporting Trump and that's a deal breaker for me.

 

Trump is disappointing because of his giant ego and his inability to build an effective cabinet and team of advisors. Still he’s not as bad as Biden who is senile and almost totally controlled by the far left of the Democrat Party. Furthermore, there is a good chance that voting for Biden will make giggle puss Harris president because Biden probably will not finish the term.

Therefore I must vote for Trump. Staying home for me would be the same as voting for Biden.

 

Is there any way to quantify the dangers from Trump's autocratic grasping for the levers of power or Biden's amnesiac shuffling into thermonuclear war?

In Trump's case it's fairly certain that he would attempt to use the Imperial Presidency to his personal empowerment, but his ability to do so may be constrained by his own foibles and by the checks and balances of our constitutional design augmented by bureaucratic resistance.

In Biden's case it's more likely that various foreign adventure become more numerous and more harmful to US interests, but full escalation to total war is fairly improbable. On the other hand, the destruction caused would be much, much worse.

 

Here's the thing, if you don't want Trump to be president, then the best way to prevent that is to vote for Biden, whether you like Biden or not. Because, if you vote for a third party, you help Trump.

Why? Okay, here's why.

Because a third party vote in the general could lead to a contested election, which is where no one gets 270 delegates. If that were to happen, as unlikely as it may seem, it's possible, then the vote goes to the house, where is it one vote per state. See? In the state delegations, Republicans have a two state majority, and Trump wins.

That's why.

And, BTW, no third party in history has ever won the general, so the 'odds' are that your vote is thrown away, especially if it helps Trump.

 

As much of a buffoon as he is...he hasn't gotten in my way. Sorry he's gotten in your way.

 

But I don't want Biden to be president either...

Not just because he's old and barely in control of his faculties, but because if or when he has a major health issue or dies, it's Harris right behind him and she's a dumpster fire right up there with Trump. If this was Biden from 20 years ago, I could probably stomach him. But not this husk of a man.

 

Biden has already been taking democracy away. Democrats will warn that Trump wants to take democracy away while Democrats are the ones who are actually doing it now. Yes, that is a clear choice.

 

I won't be voting for Trump or the destructive "progressive" lunatics pulling Biden's strings, but the country will be better off with anyone Right of the destructive "progressive" lunatics pulling Biden's strings.

I'd like to see the Libertarian Party and some of the other alternative parties get their acts together. Looks like No Labels won't be one of them:

No Labels is running out of time — and candidates — to make its case
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...e-and-candidates-to-make-its-case/ar-BB1ji6Im

 

I didn't call you a liberal. I effectively called you a moderate, albeit one that clearly falls mostly on the left side of the spectrum, at least in regards to what issues you decide to argue on here.

I could go in your history and prove my position, but I fail to see why that would be worthwhile. I bet one would have to dig pretty deep in your history before they found you arguing in favor of a rightist position. That statement doesn't mean that you don't have instances of you opposing Biden or a leftist politician, rather it means that you don't do much if any advocating for rightist policy positions. The reason for this is that you are mostly leftist. There is nothing there to legitimately argue. You just said that you may have been a liberal by 2005 standards....do you know what that means? It means that you are at least mostly leftist. Nothing I have said here is bombastic, it has all been rather measured.