Do you defend starvation as a weapon in Gaza?

Gideon Levy is a known liar. Only gullible Westerners and die hard far-left fanatics still believe him.

 

If you are so eager about it, you are welcome to drop more. Meanwhile Muslim on X claum, these MREs are in fact dropped to kill Palestinians, so dont wonder if your support is the justification for the next Islamic terror attack.

Feel free to do whatever you like, I am not part of your "we". "We" dont support Ilhan Omar with her Islamist agenda neither, its you.
By the way you are talking about the US perspective anyway. "We" - with regard to my fellow countrymen - can tell Israel whatever we want, it would not give a ****. "We" seem not to realize that we are unable to protect our own state and its a wet dream, "we" could pressure Israel into doing anything.

 

You are free to be a drunkard, an idler, a coward, a backbiter, a fornicator; but you are not free to think for yourself.

 

You know, it takes one to know one, so dont think you will be ever in the position to judge who thinks for himself and who doesnt. The rest of the people you mention, maybe.

 

I've already explained that iDont subscribe to the bubble narrative, have you?

 

Yes, a parachute didn't open and the delivery landed on a Palestinian kid.

Obviously, we didn't intend that.

However, Palestinians know who makes the bombs and rockets that are used to slaughter their people and who vetoes the ceasefires over and over again.

If you pay taxes, if you vote, you are part of "we".

 

Unlikely the pallet would have hurt this overweight reporter though.

 

That doesnt prevent islamist accounts to frame it that way and use it as new fooder to spread hate against the US.

Again, you are talking from the US perspective. Germany could not stop Israel even if it wanted to. By the way I am not sure if the US could by not vetoeing.

 

Be careful with your use of "Islamist".

The US loses the ME when we provide the bombs, rockets and political support for Israel to slaughter Palestinians and steal their land.

Squashing a kid with a food delivery accident is not why we lose the ME.

I don't know your point in the second paragraph. Opposition to what Israel is doing has to come from multiple sources - not just Germany or the US.

We've watched numerous nations testify at the ICJ.

The embarrassing part is that the USA works FOR the slaughter of Palestinian citizens and the destruction of everything they own and everything they need for life itself.

Now, Israel is using heavy equipment to dig up Palestinian cemeteries!!

You do Germany. I'll point out America's atrocities that contribute to the Gaza genocide, including our continuing arms deliveries.

Who knows what we could accomplish if we weren't on the side of slaughtering Palestinians.

 

Thats exactly what seems to be your mission in this forum at all. To be apologetic of islamists.

There is for start the misconception that Israel is dependent from German military aid, while in fact the Israeli military complex is atm simply more capable and powerful. You realize that its Germany who is depending on Israel when it comes to Iron Dome missle protection systems we ordered form them, so if Germany puts a weapon embargo in Israel the obvious reponse will be we better take care of our own what to do against missles from Russia with love.

I mean outside of the fact that I know Palestinian "refugees" here in Germany and you will never convince me to take their side, you have a serious misconception about the opportunities of a Western European country with a leftist dominated politics thus with pacifistic illusions and a disregard for its own military complex towards a country like Israel which did its homework.

In fact there is no army in the ME that could rival the IDF and they will continue their work until its finished. You can demonstrate as long as you want "Free free Palestine", whether or not there will be a Palestine left afterwards is not our decision to make.

 

By Islamists, I presume you mean Hamas.

But, I haven't said anything in the defense of Hamas on this board - EVER.

You need to read more carefully, OK?

I haven't said anything about Germany, either other than that I believe they are giving aid to Israel.

No, Israel doesn't get to "do its work until it is finished" if that work is to drive Palestinians from Gaza and take over that country.

Gaza belongs to Palestine.

And, Israel's behavior has been below ANY moral, ethical or legal guideline. The idea of bulldozing cemeteries, blowing up necessary civilian infrastructure for water, electricity, sanitation, etc., starving the people, including BABIES to DEATH, having a laugh about shooting an unarmed 72 year old deaf guy, sniping at those trying to get food aid ...

This is disgusting beyond ANY scale of morality. And, it is FAR more than what Israel can claim to have suffered in October.

Israel IS behaving as terrorists - starving and slaughtering unarmed civilians for political gain.

 

By Islamists I mean ISLAMISTS.

Instead of making stupid presumptions, its you are the one who should instead read carefully. Lock that up in your brain, never let it slip again and start reading precisely, did you get that?

You can claim what you want, even if I agree with you it will not change anything about the realities. They are the ones with the weapons with the professional army and to force new deals.

First off, I dont take Pallywood theatralics serious, because I know they lie. Secondly, its very possible that Israel wants to make use of that situation for ethnic cleansing. The third point - and thats what I wanted to make clear - even if I disagree with Israel, I cannot stop them and my government cannot stop them. You seriously overestimate the influence former big players from the 20th century hold today. France, Germany, UK, Russia ... they dont make the rules for this game anymore and Israel wont let go of its politics because a woman who was placed there in the foreign ministry only because of her gender threatens to call them out as anti-feminist.

Its not how this works.

 

No, that is NOT an answer.

What we're seeing is the killing of large numbers of civilians.

Are you suggesting those civilians are Islamists?

Are food insecure civilians getting aid from aid deliveries Islamists that justify Israel killing them?


Aid IS available. Israel doesn't have to deny food, water and medicine in order to attack Hamas forces.

 

I claimed that you were apologetic of Islamists in this forum ever since I read your comments. I didnt explicitly mean that Palestinian civilians are Islamists, although there is no doubt a majority is, as they voted Hamas in and support Hamas.

Depends on the civilians. Those participating, supporting or preparing e.g. Octobre 7th, yes, I think its justified to kill them.

The point is, I dont know exactly whats going on there, as I know that in a war both sides will use propaganda tactis to confuse the issue and paint the other one as evil, in this case Pallywood does it ever since, war or not. You one the other side take all this information Hamas publishes for granted or just wanna pretend to.

I could imagine that Netanjahu wanna use this 7th Octobre massacre for further pushing them back or taking other actions you could consider ethnic cleansing in the aftermath, its possible, if so, Palestinians brought it mostly on themselves to be in that situation, even if it includes actions I would call a crime.

I have seen your comments about Ilhan Omar's belittleing of the Armenian genocode, I have seen your comments about her trial to be apologetic about Islamist militants doing unspeakable atrocities in Kashmir and elsenwhere in India, so do you really think you can convince me of anything with just the random claim of genocide? You dont give a **** about genocide, only if it fits into your woke agenda.

I dont see a reason to Push Israel in any way just because their wars lead to civilian losses like all wars all over the world did, just because you paint that randomly as a genocide while Islamists make fun of real genocides all over the world as long as its "infidels" which are killed and their woke allies defend that.

 

You can not quote ANYTHING I've said that is supportive of terrorism by ANY group of terrorists. So, stop your totally unfounded allegations, OK?

You have NO evidence that Palestinian civilians are terrorists. And, that includes at the point of the election where they voted out their monumentally corrupt government and accepted Hamas leadership.

That's a red herring. NO effort is being made to identify criminal behavior. Bombs and starvation do NOT do that.

What Israel is doing is NOT accepted by the world and is very clearly criminal.

Promoting genocide on the grounds that you don't know what's going on?? REALLY??

Cite her "trial" or take it back.
I haven't commented on her opinions on this board OR on the Armenian genocide.

Please consider what numerous nations have stated at the ICJ.

By the Geneva Conventions which we were instrumental in creating, we have a duty to oppose genocide, including methods such as starvation and group punishment. In fact, we have a duty to find those who carry out these tactics and assure they are punished.

If we believe in the rule of law or have any moral fiber, we would oppose genocide.

Also, those in our military who study how to end terrorist groups state that what Israel is doing WILL NOT WORK.

 

The only organization working toward genocide is Hamas. The IDF plan is working. Hamas is down to ~ 3000 terrorists in Rafah. Once they are eradicated the people of the Gaza Strip can return to the safety, security, and economic prosperity that they enjoyed before Israel left in 2005.

 

Except for the small problem that the families of the 30,000 dead are going to be hell bent on vengeance, and an entire new generation of extremists has been created, even more than before, and now they will have increased foreign support, as well as legitimacy from nations around the world who see Israel as an oppressive regime. Israel has shot it self in the foot this time, possibly fatally.

 

You can not kill an idea by shooting it. It just doesn't work that way.

Israel's rule of Gaza FAILED. Apartheid always fails.

Nobody has any idea how many "terrorists" there are in Rafah.

 

Except that the great majority of those 30,000 are Hamas terrorists. New generations of extremists are created by the success of extremism - in this case radical Islamic genocidal terrorism. Hamas is being eradicated. Hamas recruitment will crater just as ISIS recruitment has cratered after the later was eradicated by the Trump administration. Israel has the respect and admiration of those in the world who think clearly. Israel will have all the international support it needs. Biden's progressive puppeteers understand this.

 

First, you said 3,000.

Now, you say the great majority of 30,000.

You are wearing out your sphincter.

 

You can kill terrorists by shooting at them. And that is exactly what Israel is doing to Hamas. They will soon be history in Gaza.

Gazans long for the days when Israel provided security leading to economic prosperity in the Gaza Strip.

I posted that information a few days ago. The estimate is 3000.

 

There are 3000 Hamas terrorists left in Rafah. Please read more carefully.

 

You have no idea how extremism works, do you? It does not AT ALL require the success of other extremists. If anything, it is the lack of success that will bring even greater numbers. When people join extremist groups it is because either they or their loved ones have suffered injustices or losses so bad that they are willing to do heinous things, and die themselves, to accomplish them. If the goals of the extremists are failing, it could mean, and absolutely does mean in this case, that the injustices are either still present or are getting worse. That will ABSOLUTELY result in massive increases in the number of insurgents, not a lessening.

It is impossible to bomb your way to peace in these conditions. If that WERE possible, Israel would have had peace decades ago. The violence is only getting worse, and will CONTINUE to get worse until a peace is made and injustices made up for. The longer this slaughter of civilians continues, the worse the violence will become.

You are trying to apply WW2 tactics to an insurgency. Doesn't work. At all. That's why an entire new method of fighting wars had to be thought up in Iraq and Afghanistan, and it STILL hasn't been perfected, and likely won't ever be.

 

To the benefit of Gazan civilians the end is in sight in the latest war of genocidal terrorism initiated by Hamas on October 7 2023. Hostilities have been ongoing since 2007 after Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in a violent coup. Estimates of the number of Hamas terrorists left in Rafah are ~ 3000 or what's left of the four remaining Hamas "terror brigades".

https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel...ng international pressure,the civilized world.

 

Israel is saying that Rafah is the last holdout. 3,000 out of 30,000 isn't a "last holdout".

Do you think Hamas is waiting around to be bombed as if they are civilians?