Is Trump for sale?

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    We'll have to agree to disagree :)
     
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    I didn't drink beer before the controversy I'm certainly not going to start now.
     
  3. gipper

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    No. No. No. That’s absurd. You’re stuck in the matrix and can’t see anything outside it.

    You think the two party system is all there is and we all must support it. Foolish.

    Vast numbers of Americans don’t vote and many are declared independent. Most know the two party system is criminal and evil. How could you not know this after what’s occurred these past few decades?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you want to see it that way. Just be aware that whenever you repeat a binary statement like "all politicians are corrupt" or "lie" or "can be bought"... or any similar, you are helping to support politicians who actually ARE corrupt, who lie and who can be bought.... That's the pitfall of using words like "all" or "every..." to qualify people. My best advice is to avoid them.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The two party system is all there IS. You will be governed either by Rs or Ds. And the next President will be either Trump or Biden.

    They can declare themselves Japanese, for all I care. They WILL be governed by Rs or Ds. You can either participate in electing the ones you hate the least, or you'll help elect the ones you hate the most. Easy as that...

    That is not going to change this year. Voting independent will not change it.
     
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    Your argument makes zero sense. Your statement that it "helps to support politicians who are corrupt" is easily one of the most illogical statements I've heard in a long time. And that's saying something considering all of the illogical crap spewed on this forum. Walk me through how my stating pols can be bought on a forum "helps" those who have been bought?
     
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    Already did
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/is-trump-for-sale.617366/#post-1074702575

    Feel free to substitute "corrupt" for "can be bought" or "lie" or... whatever blanket statement you feel like using (with the appropriate grammatical adjustments). The argument is the same in all cases.
     
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    You’re probably right which should tell you we live in a failed state run by a criminal rapacious psychopathic oligarchy. I refuse to support it. You should too.
     
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    nevermind
     
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    But I don't justify corruption. Corruption is absolutely wrong and should not be tolerated. Let me say that again....corruption is absolutely wrong and should not be tolerated. I also don't have a politician that I follow. Which has already been explained to you. So it seems YOUR blanket statement is not completely accurate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I completely 100% understand that. And I apologize if I gave the impression that I thought otherwise. What I'm saying is that that type of phrases are music to the ears of corrupt politicians.

    As I said: please be mindful if you ever feel the urge to use words like "all" or "every..." when describing a group of people. I'm using "corruption" as an example. But it applies to many aspects of reality. For example, something like "all attorneys are thieves" will be happily promoted by attorneys who are caught stealing because it justifies their actions.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We all need to keep in mind Trump's mindset, should he be re-elected, will be of someone who can not run for re-election again.
    FALSE EQUIVALENCE ALERT!
     
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    Falsehood alert...
     
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    Trump for sale?
    HOW DARE YOU EVEN IMPLY SUCH A THING.

    Donald Trump is not and has never been for sale.
    He is, however, for rent at reasonable rates.
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    yeah, you couldn't pay me to get on as 737-MAX
     
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    It looks like someone put on their delusion hat this morning.
     
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    Lying isn't a good look.
    But it pretty much all the GOP has today.
     
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    You’ve accepted the establishment propaganda. Trump isn’t any worse than Genocide Joe. Have ever bothered to research Joe’s horrendous career? Are you aware of his actions as president? Its as if you know nothing about him.
     
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    You see, the left can repeat nonsense like "trump did business with foreign govenments and is a security risk and even repeat disproven past lives like the trump/ putin conspiracy thingy and the hunter bidens laptop is russian disinformation with no problem.

    But let a republican say biden sold himself to Ukraine and no matter whats presented they claim it proves nothing.

    Welcome to American politics.
     
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    It had nothing to do with homosexuality. It had to do with supporting an social media personality who was influencing kids to become trans.
     
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    And they just needed to throw some money Trump's way and somehow... magically.... they stopped influencing kids to become gay.

    The accumulation of ridicules on the right will be mocked for generations to come....
     
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    Budweiser apparently does quite a bit for Vets and other projects that are popular with Conservatives which is why many prominent ones want the boycott to stop. I also believe they donate money to the Republican Party. Dana White of the UFC gave them a sponsorship and was out there defending them as well. Conservatives aren't a monolith. Some want Anheuser to fry while some others are willing to forgive them and others are supporting them. Trump to this day keeps touting that COVID vaccine that is WILDLY unpopular among Conservatives too.

    Elon Musk blew the whistle on what the whole Tik Tok ban proposal actually entailed and if what he said is true Trump should absolutely be against supporting that.
     
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    Again, not gay. Nothing to do with gay.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point is it was literally a few hours between the time the Busch's announced the fundraiser and Trump suggesting that the boycott end. It was as obvious as pay for play gets.
     
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