Is Trump for sale?

Ok... so let's see. Is it or is it not "normal" for a politician to be corrupt? And by "normal" I am using the word in it's basic generic form to mean "the norm".

This is your opportunity to pleasantly surprise me.

 

Normal and ok are two very different things. Do I think every politician can be bought? Yup. Do I think it's "ok" that they can be bought? Nope.

 

I wonder what the following will do now. Will they go back to buying Bud Light?

 

So you ARE saying that it's normal. And your accusation that I was "assuming" has been shattered.

Of course you didn't use the word "ok". That would be too obvious. What you do is normalize the behavior. That's what I'm saying. It's how followers of corrupt politicians justify their leaders.

 

I was referring to your assumption that it was "ok". Because it's NOT ok. Surely even you can grasp that concept, right? Or maybe not. Again, I don't follow any politician as I have no allegiance to any politician. So I don't fit into your little box. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

It's YOUR assumption that that was my assumption. They probably don't THINK it's "ok". But they need to transmit the idea that it is. And they do it by claiming it's normal.

You fall into their narrative.

It is NOT normal. Anybody whose opinions are based on evidence, facts and reality will NOT assume it's normal. But anybody who needs an "easy" way out that doesn't want to engage in the mental effort required to discern one from the other, will just repeat the one dimensional claim.

 

He’s not for sale. He’s bought exactly like Genocide Joe. Yet another thing among many they have in common.

Our entire political class is bought but somehow most Americans have yet to figure this out, though it’s transparently obvious. You?

 

Not looking for an easy way out. I have no dog in the fight like you do. I can think pols are all self-centered and ego driven and able to be bought while giving no excuse to any politician because I don't like or have an allegiance to any politician. I can't stand them all. For some reason this confuses you. Meh...¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Trump flip flopped - not uncommon. But its a very big and public flip flop. What I'm most interested in is how Trump will pay his bond for the fraud case. Will he be borrowing? If so, from whom? Is there an expectation of reciprocation if he becomes POTUS? I can't imagine why any American, left or right, wouldn't be concerned about these things.

 

The one thing you fail to understand is that you ALWAYS have a dog in the fight, whether you like it or not. You will favor one position or another. In this case, your position favors corrupt politicians who justify their corruption with the FALSE statement that all politicians are corrupt.

It's most DEFINITELY the easy way out. The hard way out is to look at each politician individually and, if you find corruption, point it out! That requires evidence. A blanket statement like "they are all corrupt" helps NOBODY except the one who actually ARE corrupt. But it spares you the effort to analyze those who are NOT corrupt.

 

No. Those of us who oppose the duopoly, do not support the D or R Party. It is duopoly think to believe Americans must chose one of the two criminal gangs.

The lesser of two evils is still evil. I refuse to support evil of any kind. You should too.

The reality is the two gangs agree on all big issues and support each other while colluding with government agencies and the controlled media, to prevent the rise of third parties.

 

Is he a politician? he certainly wasn’t for sale BEFORE Democrats tried to bankrupt him. They couldn’t control him because they couldn’t offer him anything. NOW Democrats have given him reason and motivation.

Good job guys. We already know the Clintons, Obama and Biden are on the take. Obama left office far richer than he got in. Same with the Clintons. Trump lost money because Democrats and the MSM tried to destroy him.

Again nice job

 

Except I never said all politicians are corrupt. I said they can be bought. That doesn't mean every one HAS been bought.
Your claim that my position "favors" corrupt politicians is beyond bizarre. I suppose the third party candidates that I vote for could possibly beat the two "main" candidates...but I'm not gonna hold my breath on that.

 

By living in this country, you DO support either the D or the R party. One of them WILL govern you. Whether you like it or not. Not voting or voting third party is the same as voting the whichever of those two you hate the most.

 

The minute you start trying to lay hand to power corruption follows inevitably in it's wake. The longer one holds that power the more corrupt one becomes.

 

If you CAN be bought, you are corrupt.

However, your statement makes no difference to what I said. Simply change "corrupt" with "can be bought" and my point is the same.

 

"Every man has his price"

Even more true/relevant today..

 

Nope. Can be bought is not the same as having been bought.

 

DNC fascism, front and center and the left cheer it!

 

You're a Republican. As such, that's ALL you have seen in the politicians that you support. And they have told you again and again that, even you don't actually SEE it as often on the other side, you should not believe your eyes. Republicans are more easy to convince to believe what they are told, and not what they see with their "lyin' eyes"

 

Again, that's what you see because you're a Republican. You have plenty of evidence. You just assume the same on the Democratic side without need of evidence.

 

Stop the strawman nonsense! I'm not saying it's the same. I'm saying that my arguments apply equally to one as it does to the other. They BOTH are intended to water down culpability.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree

 

That would imply that you have made a rational argument to counter mine. I'm sorry to say that you haven't. I can't agree OR disagree with a statement with no substance.

 

Laughable BS the corruption is see is entirely equal opportunity the difference is Republicans **** can their asshats and Democrats lionize and defend theirs to the death.