On This Day In 1854 . . .

PLEASE....

You can't teach them actual factual history.
Why bother trying?

 

While Goldwater did the GOP no favors with PoC I'm pretty sure it has been the GOP embrace of racism on every level that has PoC looking for other answers.

 

....because they live in 2024, not 1854, and they understand their own history and the present better than resentful white right wingers who can't talk about them without implying they are stupid, lazy or both.

There are currently more African Americans representing the Democratic Party in Congress than the TOTAL number of African Americans who have represented the Republican party in the entire history of the Republic. Until you work out what black people worked out generations ago you will never understand this. I'm betting you don't.

 

Correct. if it had just been Goldwater no one would care. That stupid LBJ quote people throw about is just another 'black people are dumb' meme designed to distract from much broader, deeper and longer lasting trends. Goldwater was part of a trend that had already begun in the GOP - chasing after the votes of racist whites who were feeling increasingly abandoned by a Democratic party that was slowly and painfully abandoning its racist past. The process took over a generation, but it was a deliberate and successful strategy.

Modern Republicans point blank deny what Republicans of that time freely admitted to, instead blaming it on black poeple being 'fooled' or 'bribed'....which just reinforces the reasons so few black people vote GOP.

 

Sorry, but in the 1960s, it was southern Democrats who kept Jim Crow alive and well in the South. Your party does not have a proud history on the civil rights issue.

 

Golly gee whiz!

Do you have anything more to add beyond this blindingly irrelevant load of horsecrap?

 

No, Republicans have sold out working Americans many times in many ways, but not the day it was formed; Lincoln was, either, our greatest President or second only to George Washington. The Saddest day for the Republican party was when they first began bending their knees to tRaitor tRump.

 

There is no doubt the Rs cold out the working class, just as the D Party has. Yet another thing they agree on.

However, Abe was our worst president and a traitor. Treason is defined in the Constitution as warring on the American people. Exactly what Dishonest Abe did. He was a tyrant who started the decline of the US.

 

Because we don't live with the Republican or Democrat parties from 170 years ago....

 

You have a right to chose to be ignorant.

 

In 1856, the Republicans ran their first presidential candidate, John C. Fremont. He ran a good race against the Democrat, James Buchanan.

Here are some Fremont medalets from the 1856 campaign.

Fremont was a great explorer who mapped out the American west. He was the one of the first two California senators.



Fremont was an abolitionist. He called for an end to slavery and opposed moves in Congress to stifle debate on the subject.






Fremont's wife was named Jessie. She was the daughter of the powerful Democratic Party Senator, Thomas Hart Benton. Thomas did not support his son-in-law for president.

Fremont's campaign did mention Jessie on this medalet. This marked the first time that a potential First Lady was mentioned on a political piece.



Fremont was briefly a candidate for president in 1864. He threatened to run against Lincoln as a third party candidate but dropped out in September before Election Day. Here is a ferrotype of Fremont and his running mate, James Cochrane.

 

lol…how naive. Move to Haiti and see what real anarchy is like.

 

The real problem is not in all the minutia that is being spread about on this post. The real problem is simple: that Republicans have been unable to convince many Blacks to vote for them. Perhaps they don't like how you have treated Black Lives Matter. Perhaps they are smart enough to know that being called "thugs" is not an honor. Perhaps they are not as excited by ending equity and diversity programs as Republicans are. Perhaps they are not in line with the way their districts have been jerrymandered. Perhaps they don't like to be told that they are not smart enough to see what is good for them or too lazy to work for what they want or need.

1854 is meaningless to them; 2024 is more important. As soon as Republicans realize that they might be able to attract more Black votes.

 

And one can choose to believe fantasy over reality...Welcome to MAGA

 

I will remind you that I am a reluctant Trump voter. Your candidate is crooked and senile.

 

I prefer a president/party that has policies that are more important to the USA in general. Why support a party that wants to attract people by the color of their skin, their sexual orientation, their religion, or their gender? That's called pandering. If a policy helps the USA but doesn't directly help me, I should be proud, and also happy for those it does directly help.

 

Statist establishment talking point. You’re not informed.

We live in an ever increasing dystopia yet you still support the tyrannical state, because you’ve been conditioned.

 

I was trying to point out that the values Republicans support cause some Blacks to vote for Democrats because many of they do not support them. It is not the fault of the black voter. My point is that I what happened 150 years ago has little to do with how you or I vote, perhaps they feel the same.

 

Why would you say that?

Lincoln got some of the most sweeping legislation defining the American future passed in a war.

He saved the Republic,

He freed the slaves.

Trump, on the other hand:

A tax cut for Wall Street was his only significant piece of legislation’

Instead of saving the Republic, Trump planned an insurrection against it.

And he promises a “bloodbath”

And Trump’s core political value is bigotry.

 

Trump supporters want a strong man dictatorship.

 

He murdered 850,000 Americans and destroyed half the nation. Yet he’s considered great. Proving how dumb many Americans are.

 

Because Pres. Johnson flooded their communities with crack and welfare to degenerate their culture and make them dependent and desperate for govt assistance, and the Dems offer assistance.

Its trending down tho.

Why Democrats are losing Black, Hispanic voters to the right (axios.com)

Turns out black people like freedom more than dependence, to the surprise of no one (except Democrats).

 

That’s true. Strom Thurmond still hold the record for the longest talking filibuster in history, against the Civil Rights Act of 1957, which really did not amount to much legislatively.

Today, virtually every one of the seats that were held by Democrats who voted against the Civil Rights act in 1964, are held by Republicans.

Trump campaigned and campaigns on open bigotry and race baiting.

And yet, the very people who would have opposed the Civil Rights act, are still trying to hide behind the legacy of Lincoln.

 

He didn’t start the war. The South did that. And the defenders of slavery did that.

 

Not before 1964.

But it does now.

Meanwhile the GOP has Trump, the most openly racist political candidate in a very long time.