On This Day In 1854 . . .

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  1. gipper

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    No. He started the war by invading the south.

    No doubt you believe the propaganda about dishonest Abe and no amount of truth will change you.
     
  2. independentthinker

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    I guess they get used to being slaves and want a party who tells them how they should vote and keeps them enslaved through generational poverty.
     
  3. TomFitz

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    No, the actual war started when rebels attacked Ft Sumpter.

    Several Confederate states has seceded even before Lincoln was sworn in. The Palmetto Society (a precursor to the KKK) plotted an attempt on the President elect’s life.

    All before a single Union soldier ever stepped foot into the Confederacy.
     
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    It might be because of the open race baiting going on in the GOP, and especially with Trump. He based his whole political persona on race baiting. It’s his political brand. And it plays well with his audience, as is readily apparant in this thread alone.
     
  5. gipper

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    No you’re uninformed like most duped Americans.

    Lincoln set up events at Ft Sumter. Do you not know ALL OTHER FEDERAL FACILITIES IN THE SOUTH EVACUATED WITHOUT INCIDENT, EXCEPT FT SUMTER? Please think.

    Fort Sumter’s commander told SC they would vacate but Lincoln told him to stay, and we will resupply you. SC saw through the lie and shelled the fort.

    BIG QUESTION FOR YOU…How many Union troops were killed and wounded in the shelling?

    Let’s kill 850,000 Americans and destroy half the country because they shelled our fort. Boohoo. THINK!!!!!!!!
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Well it should have but he was defeated for other reasons and he certainly was not some Democrat Segregationist as many attempt to paint him. MLK ruled the black vote and he for whatever reason, books have been written, changed and threw his hat in with the newly epiphanized LBJ and Democrat party. It has been an anchor around the necks of blacks for decades. There are more and more black conservatives coming to the forefront and this election cycle may see a BIG shift as it seems many in the black communities have gotten fed up with the progressive government dependency failed programs and crime that has been allow to flourish.
     
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    I will remind you that you are a Trump voter.

    Whatever gives you solace with that behavior has nothing to do with reality.

    As in:
    "...but she deserved it..."
    "...but it was over quickly..."
    "...I did it for you..."
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Republican's what segregation? Segregation was a Democrat policy, the only home it ever found was in the Democrat party. Even when the most staunch Democrat segregationist broke off into the Dixiecrats and that failed Presidential run they went right back into the open and welcoming arms of the Democrat party. Then the Dems finally saw they could no longer oppose and hold down the Civil Rights movement and anti-segregation momentum and did their political triangularization. Eventually the old segregationist were voted out by the younger Southern voters becoming a bigger voice or died. Took another 20 years to finally get rid of them all.
     
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    Would you care to substantiate that claim, or is it just campaign rhetoric?
     
  10. JohnHamilton

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    You will never change my vote as long you are running with the crooked, senile Biden.
     
  11. Just A Man

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    I grew up in the 40's and 50's in the deep south. The Black neighborhoods were neat although they had humble homes (as I did), they dressed well, they had manners, they worked hard, the father (was in the house) and mother raised the kids to respect grownups and the law. They attended school, learned, and kept their language clean. You tell me what changed?
     
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    Your projection impacts me not at all.

    Joe's THE MAN!
    He's doesn't have 90 felony counts
    He's not about to turn over most of his property to the courts
    He doesn't were Depends

    But whatever lets you sleep at night.
    After all, we're all the heroes of our own stories.
    I guess the difference between us is that I have no need to create a fantasy to be the hero.
     
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    So again we show the weakness of Blacks drugs and welfare are more important to them. How stupid do you think they are. Why do you think this will win you any Black votes?
     
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    I tend to think theft isn’t strong enough.
     
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    That should win you even more Black votes.
     
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    Do you get what is happening here?
     
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    It wasn't any different for black communities decades ago than the opioid crisis that is now infecting mostly white communities. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years we find out the govt is pushing this one as well. We already know its at least partially the result of corrupt and inept regulators of the pharmaceutical industry. And it seems more and more common that seemingly isolated malfeasance often turns out to be a part of a larger deliberate agenda.

    Anyway, I'm hoping that no one 'wins the black vote'. I want people to vote for independence and freedom and self determinism instead of dependence and collectivism and authoritarian bureaucracy.
     
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    I did think.

    And nothing you said changes a thing.
     
  20. TomFitz

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    How many examples would you like?

    He does it constantly. Usually in dog whistles.

    His very first campaign appearance in 2015 featured the common white racist rant claiming that brown people were all dirty, drug dealing criminals.

    He gave a shout out to the ultra racist Proud Boys in his last debate.

    And in between, there are hundreds of examples.
     
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    Because it's not 1854 any more.
     
  22. TomFitz

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    This thread seethed with rather obvious racism. Peddling hoary old stereotypes and drawing imagined conclusions from them.

    The OP was shopping the false narrative that the GOP started feeding the white resentment crowd about voting patterns.

    And it didn’t take long for one of the white resentment tyes to call Lincoln, “dishonest Abe”. Based on nothing.

    It is a disgusting thread, founded on a false premise.
     
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    That is changing.
     
  24. TomFitz

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    It started to change after 1965 when the Voting Rights Act was passed.

    Here and there across the South, racist southern Democrats retired,and were replaced by Republicans that said the same thing.

    The rise of right wing talk radio did the rest, and by the turn of the century, the GOP had filled all of the old Dixiecrat seats.
     
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    Fake News, he warned of Bribed Joe's bloodbath for the US Auto Workers when he takes the US Auto Industry and gives it to China and Mexico. The $Millions that China gave Bribed Joe is the best money China ever spent.

    BYD: Here Comes the EV Bloodbath Trump Warned Us About.

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    Trump Stands Tall For US Auto Workers, Working And Middle Class While Bribed Joe and too many Dems work to impoverish them.

    'Donald Trump was right. It's going to be a bloodbath when China's BYD starts selling its "fun-to-drive" Seagull EV in this country at a price not even Tesla can match.'

    Trump warns of Bribed Joe's planned bloodbath for the US Auto Worker and instead of engaging Trump on the issue, Bribed Joe and the Lying Fake News Media immediately launch another, coordinated Disinformation campaign on the Americans People, on the same day that they are arguing before the Supreme Court that they should have the power to unilaterally ABRIDGE the free speech rights of any American.

    China's ready to dump $Millions of cheap cars on US Markets and Bribed Joe and too many Dems are ready to let them walk off US Auto Workers Jobs.

    'The five-door hatchback doesn't have the best range or fanciest amenities. But what it does have is a top price under $14,000, good safety features, aggressive looks, and plenty of financial backing from Beijing. BYD's specialties are batteries and high-tech manufacturing, and they're using both to aggressively expand overseas production and deliveries.'
     

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