Most terrifying poll result I've ever seen

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Since there was no investigation of voter fraud in 2020 there is no way to substantiate it. So you get opinions. It will remain a mystery forever.
     
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    Wuuuuuuuuuuuut?
    Ignoring policies for judicial appointments is a tRumpublican thing and what got us where we're at. Which has NOTHING to do with how you vote.

    I get telling yourself, all evidence to the contrary, that President Biden has tRaitor tRump's traits of inferior mental capacity to go along with Adderall induced senility and his lifelong corruption is the only way to hold your nose and vote for him. It's why you do, that I don't get.
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you keep missing the point-why should I vote for Joe Biden given ALL of his policies concerning the four or five issues I most care about, are deleterious to my positions?
     
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    I haven't missed the point. You're placing self interest above the well being and longevity of OUR Constitution.

    But that wasn't your previous argument. You can keep changing your argument, you'll still be wrong to support tRaitor tRump.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why should that be shocking? A good percentage of MAGA feels the same way. We know this because they supported Donald Trump when he tried stealing an election.
     
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    Everything the right fabricates is the truth. Or misunderstood. Or an "alternative fact". Or a witch hunt. Or a christian value.

    That's why the never screw up. They know what is best for everyone, including the majority.
    They don't need to support anything they do because they are shining examples of all that is good and just........just ask them.
    The man who doesn't accept their all-seeing all-knowing wisdom is a fool. It's easier to leave the thinking to others and just obey.

    Better not to have an opinion, just repeat what wiser and morally sounder righties tell you.
    If you can't understand that.......improve your thinking through surgery. They still do labotomies.
     
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    What's pretty rich is a non-voting (let's assume) non-citizen that is perfectly okay with an election that saw hundreds of thousands of ballots counted that weren't verified as true and legal.
     
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    It is a a congressional thing not a Trump one. Yes it affected where we are. Preventing Garland from reaching the supreme court is probably the best and most important thing McConnell ever did. Better he be a disaster for an administration than a justice for life. How a political party responds to judicial appointments has a significant effect on voting.
     
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    It is politics. Most of it is "rich."
     
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    Nope, attempting counts.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That appears to be true. But the fact is that when you manipulate laws for the purpose on one side, you set a precedent for everyone- and it comes back on you.
    If we refuse to reason, refuse to be civil and give others the same rights we as for ourselves- we are setting the stage for alternate solutions because the system is failing.
    There will always be differences of opinions on how to do things, but the prime objective for both sides must be the same, and that is to make the nation work for everyone willing to try.
    That's common ground that can't be achieved by a divided people.

    This is why fundamental principles of honesty and duty must be upheld, regardless of the argument. If they are not- everybody loses in the end.
     
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    Except, we used to live by rule of law. Not; the end justifies the means. McConnell wouldn't even bring his nomination to the floor, where the Republicans (they still existed then ... barely) could have voted against his appointment. McConnell did stomped on the rules and then did a 180 and did it again. It' wouldn't have mattered who President Obama appointed, McConnell wouldn't have brought them to a vote.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That depends on how gullible you are. I once saw a magician invite a little girl from the audience to fly away with him in a corvette, on stage. They got in, he started the engine- and the corvette flew away.
    Do I know how that was done? I have no idea. No proof. Not a clue. Do I think it was magic? Would you believe it was magic?

    When you see something outside the known possibilities, a result that conflicts with long-established patterns and known realities, and you think it's real magic because you don't know how it was done...
    You are a con-mans dream mark. Only the people who want to believe can buy that election as legitimate. You have to be willing to suspend disbelief and skepticism, and doing that sets you up to be suckered.
     
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    It wouldn't have worked to put it to a vote in a democrat senate. Yes he did a partisan political thing. It's a good thing democrats never do partisan political things, right?
     
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    "Conservative"? GW Bush. "Republican-approved right winger"? 2016.
     
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    Facts are facts.
     
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    If I recall the facts in FL, it was Democrats who were actively cheating, or did you forget that?
     
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    Several times, and juxtaposed to each other.
    Nothing that came close to McConnell's brazenness. Even the Supreme's website, at the time, argued against what he did.
     
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    Why?
     
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    Well, not that different, but, maybe the situation has changed since 2020.

    From the OP

    'The elite 1%—individuals who make over $150,000 a year, live in densely populated areas, and have postgraduate degrees—are overwhelmingly liberal. They give President Joe Biden an 82% approval rating, compared to his 40% average from the rest of Americans.'

    The Working and Middle Class are firmly coming out for Trump:

    Trump Leads Battlegrounds on Economic Arguments

    'Americans grow increasingly frustrated with the miserable economy, which presents particular hurdles for workers of modest means. These angst-ridden masses of struggling citizens blame Biden for their woes, as proven by brand new battleground polling.'

    These certainly aren't the Rich Privileged Gentry who support Bribed Joe cheating to win.
     
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    When?
    What?
    How?
    Bullshit.
     
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    Oh I agree the urban elite who think they will get more power by bigger and bigger government supported Joe rather significantly. Same with the swinger crowd and the ones who see the bible thumpers as scum. Small business owners on the other hand, skilled professionals etc tended to support Trump
     
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    You don't remember over 200 arrest in Washington DC and riots all around the city and an immigrant independent business owner who had his limousine set on fire in an act of arson by the rioters?

    Don't worry if you can't remember because you're not alone, plenty of Democrats like to pretend it didn't happen
     
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...s-against-all-inauguration-protesters-n889531
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/21/trump-inauguration-protests-acquittals

    False equivalences are false, not equivalent.
     
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    This is a HILARIOUS way to prove that Rasmussen is a JOKE!

    I mean, he asked a group called "the elite" and then figured out their income to infer the probability that they were liberal, as well as the inferring according to where they live, and from that he inferred the probability of voting for Biden, and then use the general population to infer according to whether the area they lived in was heavily populated or not how many who were not liberal would not want their candidate to win by cheating, and then... around and around...

    Here's an idea: why not just ASK them what their political position is, and then if they would be ok if their candidate were elected by cheating?

    TWO questions and done!

    So why did they have to go down this road of inferring, concatenating, estimating, assuming, ... all that crap? Because the more complicated it sounds, the more gullible people will believe that it has some sort of statistical value.

    Rasmussen is pseudo-polling for the gullible. This is just one example.

    I have my doubts that Rasmussen has EVER interviewed a single voter... EVER. I mean, why would they go to the trouble when their conclusions are established way ahead of time!
     
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