Aid to Gaza suspended after Israel murders World Central Kitchen workers

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  1. WillReadmore

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    What happened on 10/7 is poorly known. There have been significant lies. IDF has admitted the significant numbers of Israelis were shot by the IDF.

    I agree that was a terrorist operation.

    However, that does not justify genocide. That is not debatable.

    Have you heard of the "Where's daddy" program? The IDF has a program that uses AI to guess when fighters are possibly home where they think the fighter's family lives. There's no review of the AI program results to see if they are reasonable. Then, the entire apartment building is blown up. How often do you really think that fighters go home at night like it is a 9 to 5 job?
     
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    I doubt they know jack.

    There are a good number of groups that are fighting against Israel in Gaza, from the north to the south.

    Here's a vid that shows some attacks against Israel that happened in the last week. These military groups take camera men, edit the vids to blur details of where they were taken, people's faces, etc., and then publish then for world review.

     
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    Poorly known? I saw the video. It was posted by Hamas bragging about their atrocities to garner support from other nut jobs like themselves. Palestinian women literally caterwauling like cats in heat around the bodies of the children. Poorly known?

    After 10/7 the Palestinians have a lot of audacity trying to garner sympathy from any sane person.
     
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    Those vids do not show atrocities.

    Israel is warring on Gaza, and Gaza is fighting back.

    Israel can certainly slaughter Palestinian civilians, including children. Yoav Galant states that as an objective. Do you know who he is?

    There is nothing brave or even respectable about waging genocide. I

    t's the lowest possible form of depravity.
     
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    The entire situation was so predictable that one wonders what the surprise is. Everyone knew the character of Hamas et al and everyone knew the intractability of Netanyahu et al. What else could possibly have happened than what has?
     
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    Don't show atrocities? I thought they were pretty atrocious.
     
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    @USVet @AFM
    The list of every child killed during the al Aqsa flood according to the Israelis.

    Alina Weissberg, 17
    Mor Meir, 17
    Matan Rosenberg, 17
    Ruth Hodaya Peretz, 17
    Shachaf Kriyf, 17
    Tomer Eliaz Arava, 17
    Noya Sharabi, 16
    Yonatan Kutz, 16
    Yiftach Kutz, 14
    Malek Ibrahim Alkra'an, 14
    Jawad Ibrahim Alkra’an, 14
    May Zuheir Abu Sabaakh, 13
    Yahel Sharabi, 13
    Mahmoud Diab Alkra’an, 12
    Liel Hetzroni, 12
    Yanai Heler Hetzroni, 12
    Amin Akal Alkra’an, 11
    Yonatan Zehavy, 10
    Aline Kapshetar, 8
    Arbel Siman Tov, 6
    Shachar Siman Tov, 6
    Eitan Kapshetar, 5
    Yazan Zakaria Abu-Jama, 5
    Omer Siman Tov, 4
    Mila Cohen, 10 months
    S. Abu Rashed, emergency birth

    See whats missing? A one-year-old and a 2-year-old. No one has seen what you've described. At the bare minimum LibDave should be able to give me names. But he can't because the story he told never happened.

    That makes everything else he posted meaningless.
     
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    Israel is a terrorist organization of murderous LARPers supported by the U.S. Their active goal is the removal of Palestinians from Palestine through death and terror. The Israelis consider all Palestinians in the occupied territories to be terrorists including women and children. The Israelis use ancients writings and the Holocaust as justification to murder anyone they choose in a horrific manner. The Israelis have repeatedly stated their goal to force all Palestinians out of Gaza. The Israeli Occupation Forces are not just willing to kill Palestinian babies and children, but also their own children if it supports their motives. That's the reality of Israel.
    ISIS is a terrorist organization supported by Israel.

    ISIS Fighters Regret Attacking Israel And Have 'Apologized', Former Defense Minister Says (newsweek.com)
     
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    No, you didn't.
    No, it wasn't.
    That's sounds rather bigoted.
     
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    The U.S. could have opposed Israel from the start. That would have ended it.
     
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    And you ain't no US Vet I ever heard of. Quit pretending. And you Palestinians can start by returning the innocent hostages, children, women and men. Spare me the crocodile tears until you release the hostages.
     
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    Why are you talking to yourself?
     
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    In a blurred video to protect the identity it doesn't surprise me. They were young enough.

    You made my day. The Hellfire is my baby.

    I have plenty of regard for human life. Which is why after seeing what transpired on 10/7 and all the wailing screeching Palestinians celebrating such heinous acts I figured out they aren't human. They aren't celebrating their murderers now I bet. No human could perpetrate or condone such actions. But yes, I couldn't give a rats fanny about those animals.

    And it wasn't a Hellfire strike. Though I can't know for sure which victims they were. It was clear what happened.
     
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    How did I earn my money? That is a rude question. And not your business.

    I never mentioned the US.
     
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    Hamas started the war in Gaza in 2007. Hamas is a terrorist organization funded by Iran which is the number one terrorist nation in the world.
     
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    IOW, the Zionists are inspired by Joshua and his band of murderous thieves when they butchered all the women and children of Jericho & Ai & Hebron etc and stole their land about 3200 years ago, and are now repeating Joshua's crimes against humanity and committing their own holocaust and the final solution on the Palestinians who have occupied that land for centuries. Perhaps the Zionists should also replace their flag with a swastika.
     
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    Israel supports ISIS??
     
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    Hamas calls the October 7 massacre a flood?
     
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    Has ISIS apologized for beheading those Americans? And ISIS is supported by Israel? lol. Where do they get this crazy nonsense? Do they think anyone will fall for this?
     
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    I can hear myself
     
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    More like Hannibal protocol
     
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    And during the fiasco that was the US invasion of Grenada (It had the Disney style title of "Urgent Fury") was the bombing of the Richmond Hill Mental Hospital by Navy A7 aircraft, that killed an estimated 47 patients and staff understandable and forgivable?
    It's difficult to justify confusing an anti aircraft battery, which was the intended target, with a 180 bed hospital.
     
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    No, they did not and my point holds, the Israelis did this because they genuinely thought there were armed terrorists on board, people make mistakesin war, they're only human, the Battle of Barking Creek.
     
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    Yes it was, this happens in war, good men make mistakes in the most impossible of circumstances. There's a great scene in The Longest Day where the Admiral on a Free French battleship tells his crew that today they fire on their own people and that is the price of freedom.
     
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    They're admitting fault. "The investigation’s findings indicate that the incident should not have occurred. Those who approved the strike were convinced that they were targeting armed Hamas operatives and not WCK employees. The strike on the aid vehicles is a grave mistake stemming from a serious failure due to a mistaken identification, errors in decision-making, and an attack contrary to the Standard Operating Procedures.

    ...

    After being presented with, and considering the investigation's findings, the IDF Chief of the General Staff decided that the following command measures will be taken: the brigade fire support commander, an officer with the rank of major, will be dismissed from his position. The brigade chief of staff, an officer with the rank of colonel in reserve, will be dismissed from his position. Additionally, the brigade commander and the 162nd Division commander will be formally reprimanded. The IDF Chief of Staff decided to formally reprimand the commander of the Southern Command for his overall responsibility for the incident.

    " Israel Defense Forces statement on inquiry into killing of aid workers in Gaza | Reuters

    This was an aid group that had coordinated their movements with the IDF. Even if they did this poorly, at a minimum IDF should have had enough awareness to know aid groups operate like this in the area and have a responsibility to check before killing. So them dismissing people does suggest this was at least negligence. So they're pinning the blame on specific soldiers, when their overall pattern of behavior suggests it's condoned or encouraged from higher up. Though I suppose another possibility is that a large number of mid-level officers are incompetent or morally rotten.
     
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