Trump is a bad person. Why would anybody vote for him?

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  1. philosophical

    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    Trump supporters seem disinterested in actual facts and evidence.
    They seem to believe in this kind of thing.

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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    And there are just as many perverse Biden supporters that see the smoking gun but ignore the signs.

    Clearly a shortage of saints and morality on both sides..
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    And the l left kneel at the alter of hypocricy..
     
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    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    I don’t care a jot about Biden.
    My comments are about my perception of Trump supporters.
    Look at the thread title.
    You back up my point about disinterest in facts and evidence when the evidence is there in the thread title.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    You gotta love the hypocrisy ;)

    Wow you can literally find tens of thousand of sexual violence and rape victims in countries like Australia, seems hypocrisy and secrecy rules the day :)

    So sad people/women have to live like tha..
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What smoking gun? To what are you referring?
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    AH SO YOU'RE attacking PF members then, good to know ;)
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Oh come now Sir ;) Bidens no saint..
     
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    Very funny, you cut my sentence, completely changing the meaning of my response.
    It reminds me an old joke from a communist country:
    "Mr Breznyev, can you tell us in one word what is the economic situation in Soviet Union?
    Good!
    And in two words?
    No good."

    Funny again, this time typical response which mainstream media is frequently doing 'quoting' Trump or other Republicans: very often falsifying the meaning of their sentences.

    Because I said "I don’t care if politician is good person or bad person, I care if he is good politician or bad politician" - people who think like me are responsible for "some of the worst dictatorships in history".
    Yes, poorly educated people will believe you - in desperate attempt to win election Democrats decided to ask support of poorly educated?
    Why Democrats don't trust common sense? Or maybe you are a secret Trump faithful who tries to convince people that there is no difference between MAGA and Democrats?
     
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    Then in this case, both things can be true.
     
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    When exactly has there ever been a ton of saints and morality!
     
  12. philosophical

    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    By PF do you mean this forum?Is everybody here a supporter of Donald Trump?
     
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    The Trump worshipers' article of faith that the Cry Baby Loser/Sexual Abuser is above the law is an unambiguous perversion of th American justice system, made necessary by his impotence in concocting defense strategies that could hold up in trials before juries of his peers.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I TAUGHT Logical Fallacies at the University where I worked. In fact, I wrote the webpage that lists all the Logical Fallacies that students at that university use for reference even to this day. Many professors who taught what I used to teach have used that page as mandatory reading for testing. And it's referenced in the Bibliography.

    Appeal to Sympathy is a fallacy (as all logical fallacies are) when they are used INSTEAD OF actual evidence, that what you say happened, actually happened. Family separation DID happen. Trump DID sign the policy. And it DID inflict mental pain and suffering (legal definition of "torture") on the children. And that this was the purpose of the policy is proven by Trump's own words when he said that the intention was (directly quoting Trump) "If they feel there will be separation, they won’t come.." and (directly quoting Sessions) “If you care about kids, don’t bring them in....”

    That audio is not used to prove that it happened. It's used to illustrate the fact that the consequences that any rational human being would expect actually DID happen.

    I feel I'm probably wasting my time. Because I doubt you will even read any of the above. Or, if you read it, I'm not sure you'll understand it (prove me wrong by discussing it using SERIOUS arguments). But I'll keep it anyway so if a serious poster needs the explanation, I can just give them the link and won't have to write it again.
     
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    Incorrigible, diehard Trumpers appear to be impotent in confronting the mass opposition to Trumpery expressed by so many conservatives, notably so many Republicans intimately familiar with the Loser.

    The documented reality wreaks havoc with the Loser's fake narrative that he is the victim of partisan persecution.

     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Donald Trump inherited $700 million dollars….how again is he “self made” ?
     
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    And they lie...and not for the first time.
     
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    completely irrelevant to my point. I never said how he made his money =other than it wasn't through public office. I didnt' say he was self made-but you knew that.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell me you don’t understand what a “charity” is, without telling me…
     
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    You haven't heard of Saint Senilious?
     
  21. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    it was a family charity of the sort rich people frequently set up to avoid confiscatory taxes the messed up the paper work some where along the line and more importantly loaned money to the Trump campaign. In in the eyes of the IRS that meant it could no longer be a charity.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, then show us when Joe get rich. It will be easy since his taxes have been public for over 30 years…..
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean the “billionare” who bankrupted a friggen casino, “messed up his taxes” ? Yeah…ok….
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Typical left.they disagree with me therefore they must be crazy.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Uh in case you hadn't noticed almost the entire casino business in Atlantic City went south about the same time. And note there is nothing about messing up his taxes.
     
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