Former top military officers push back on Trump immunity claim

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    More than a dozen retired four-star generals, admirals and other former military leaders filed an amicus brief with in the Supreme Court on Monday, arguing against former President Trump’s claims of immunity in his criminal cases.

    The group said Trump’s claims “would threaten the military’s role in American society, our nation’s constitutional order, and our national security,” and would have a “profoundly negative effects on military service members.”

    https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...y-officers-push-back-on-trump-immunity-claim/

    So, what's it going to be? How are defenders of all things Trump going to throw these former military men under the bus? Are they part of the fictitious deep state, Dems, never Trumpers? In what way will their concerns be dismissed as civil society mobilizes to prevent a takeover of the levers of power in ways previously thought unimaginable?
     
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    We have an impeachment process for a reason.

    Stop trying to curcumvent it and continue to pervert the legal system to do your political bidding.
     
  3. Bullseye

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    They're not lawyers - they're warriors.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

    STATEMENT OF INTEREST

    Amici are retired four-star admirals and generals, and former secretaries of the Army, Navy, and Air Force. They served under each President from John F. Kennedy to Donald J. Trump. Amici are deeply interested in this case because presidential immunity from criminal prosecution would threaten the military’s role in American society, our nation’s constitutional order, and our national security. It also would have profoundly negative effects on military service members, who answer to the orders of the President as Commander-in-Chief. This submission is based on amici’s collective experience serving in and leading our military, as well as their collective interest in safeguarding our national security. Amici’s short biographies listed below only begin to describe their distinguished service to our country.
     
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    They're definitely never Trumpers. How presidential immunity will have a negative affect on the armed forces doesn't make sense.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

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    The Constitution subjects the armed forces of the United States to civilian control and the rule of law. These limits on the military are bedrock features of our democracy and are deeply rooted in our nation’s history. From the Founding to the present day, a steadfast commitment to these principles has successfully guided us through two world wars and numerous other conflicts; provided the stability needed for our democratic republic to flourish; and ensured that the military has the capacity to defend our nation by being trained and ready to fight and win its wars.

    Petitioner’s theory of presidential immunity from criminal prosecution is an assault on these foundational commitments. The notion of such immunity, both as a general matter, and also specifically in the context of the potential negation of election results, threatens to jeopardize our nation’s security and international leadership. Particularly in times like the present, when anti-democratic, authoritarian regimes are on the rise worldwide, such a threat is intolerable and dangerous.


    Anti-democratic, authoritarian regimes like the one Trump wants.
     
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    Well, they are blowing the freakin' emergency whistle in a peacable and democratic manner. Sure hope people listen, if SCOTUS follows the Constitution, he, nor any POTUS, simply can not be King.
     
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    They're just more fear mongerers.

    Biden said he can't be stopped by the Supreme Court. Are you ok with that?
     
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    Before I am expected to chase your "silly wabbit", link me to Biden saying exactly that and then, if it's not too much to ask, tie it into the thread topic we are on. Thanks, WBK, I know you're like the mail.......person :)
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You guys are so uninformed...lol

    "Early in my term, I announced a major plan to provide millions of working families with debt relief for their college student debt," Biden said. "Tens of millions of people in debt were literally about to be canceled in debts. But my MAGA Republican friends in the Congress, elected officials and special interests stepped in and sued us. And the Supreme Court blocked it. But that didn’t stop me."
     
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    So what the context that you appear to be missing or hearing when you read that and I still don't have a link, WBK, did you miss that important part of the mail ........delivery?! On a side note, if you are hearing voices speaking in your head, LMK :) I can help.
     
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    Obviously, you're ok with a president ignoring the courts. That's what dictators do. You support dictators.
     
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    This post appears to be experiencing a moment of "cogitative dissonance".....unless you are referring to Trump! If so, disregard and welcome to the light and Earth I ;)
     
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    You obviously support dictators.
     
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    You obviously believe projection is true salvation. :) It's confession for Trump's MAGA though, so I hope that it was helpful!
     
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    We hear all the time about how you all are wetting yourselves because you think Trump is going to become a dictator, but defend Biden when he does actual dictator stuff.
     
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    WBK, Trump diapers are reportedly full, ask Walt Nutida, if he needs a new supply for the mythical "red wave".....accusation projection is apparently confession, good for you, WBK! :D
     
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    This is the height of Leftist intellectualism...
     
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    Wel, coming from you WBK, this claim of yours might be specious even bigly specious! :)
     
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    If you don't know how impeachment is relevant to the discussion of impunity, I'm not sure how to help you.

    That is the crux of Trump's arguments and defense, and I agree with him.
     
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    These former military people have been infected.
     
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    They are defenders of the Constitution, and they do not believe anyone should be above the law.
     
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    Obama filled the military with wokesters. They ought to be thrown under the bus.
     
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    They used to be. Now they're politicians not warriors. Which is why they're having trouble recruiting new soldiers, sailors, and marines.
     
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    No, you are the politician who believes your political leader should have immunity from laws.

    Only his apologists thinks that, - no one else does, be it military or non-military.
     
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