Former top military officers push back on Trump immunity claim

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  1. Hey Now

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    You don't like Christo-Fascists!!?? WTH!?
     
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    You are correct. It is the Red Guar I who staged the he Cultural Revolution. Such a revolution is being carried out even as we speak and for the same reason: to fundamentaly transform the country.
     
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    They're pushing the same agenda. How do you explain that?
     
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    I knew you wouldn't give him the respect you demand of everyone else...lol
     
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    And they defend the constitution. One does not have to be a lawyer to understand the implications of " complete immunity" if applied to Trump. He would feel free to destroy the systems he has vocalized hatred for. Not to mention changing laws so he could extract revenge to all those that he perceived hurt him. Total immunity would give him license to do as HE wishes......and that would be dangerous , to the country, the population and those he targets for sadistic revenge. It would literally make him a dictator.
     
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    I explain it as bullshit.
     
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    There's an intellectual response...lol
     
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    That's just the point. Americans are not enlisting in the Woke army..
     
  9. Sleep Monster

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    I demand nothing. You are free to respect whomever you wish. You're questioning my opinion, which is that Flynn deserves no respect. I'm just as entitled to express my opinions as you are.

    Like I said, he brought about his own disgrace. I think we should yank his pension.
     
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    If any group would have a good comprehension of politics, and the law ( without having to be a lawyer) it would be the military. These top brass HAVE to be aware.ubfirned of these factors as part of their job. Their work has exposed them to places where different regimes operate , and where certain principles ......like immunity........would have detrimental effect. Immunity by Trumps definition is freedom to do whatever he wants. ( Carte Blanche )....and we have all seen his inclinations and preferences. ( eg: he prefers dictates to the US allies). RED FLAG right there. Trump is a thug and a bully. Those are personality prerequisites for dictatorship.
     
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    He would also be in a position to simply ignore a SCOTUS ruling and tell them all to pound sand....I simply don't get why they'd want to even take this up....unless it's to just eat up time on the clock.
    BTW, it would also mean that Joe Biden can tell them the same.....it's mindboggling unless it to eat up the shot clock.
     
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    Yes. he did bring about his own disgrace. As Trump has done and IS DOING. He wants immunity to absolve himself of his wrong doings. NO other POTUS has made such a big deal about immunity. The military is right to offer their position..... as if / when things go south......it is them that folks rely on
     
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    Ya know.. even running the clock as a motive is devious and favoring Trump.
    The difference is that Biden would not ABUSE the immunity , if he had it. Trump WOULD......the minute it was granted.(and for selfish , self centered reasons.....
     
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    Agreed! Also, the point of the Generals, it would still be the military men going to jail for following the illegal order since no such "immunity" flows down to them. It's a crazy topic for SCOTUS to "ponder".
     
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    It is what it is. Bullshit is my opinion.
     
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    So what is this never Trumpers thing?

    If people are turned off by Trump for whatever reason and apparently there are to some many reasons

    Simply Trump is not their choice.

    Why label them never Trumpers ?
     
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    Aren't they?

    https://www.americanprogress.org/ar...ry currently,all first-term military recruits.

    Only 5% are immigrants.

    Here are reasons for lower numbers:

    https://usafacts.org/articles/is-military-enlistment-down/

    "... the majority of young adults are disqualified for service because of “obesity, drugs, physical and mental health problems, misconduct, and aptitude.”

    Go Navy. That's the only branch with increasing numbers.
     
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    If it doesn't make sense to you, perhaps you should read that amicus brief.
     
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    Indeed. actually, not much to ponder. It seems self evident. One would think that they have more critical issues to determine er ponder . Trump is as good as making a mockery of the system by jerking it around to kill ltime and "run the clock".

    Pathetic. but he is a drama queen by definition ;-)
     
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    They follow the orders of those appointed over them.
    [quote-MiaBleu]
    One does not have to be a lawyer to understand the implications of " complete immunity" if applied to Trump. He would feel free to destroy the systems he has vocalized hatred for. [/quote]On if Biden also has that power. And Obama, and Bush . . .
    Not exactly. The total immunity applies to the handling of presidential papers and classified matter - the Constitution still applies.
     
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    I don't need to. They sound like partisan morons.
     
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    There's a huge difference between people who disagree with Trump and anti-Trumpers.
     
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    I agree that your opinion is bullshit. Your honesty is refreshing.
     
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    So the president should not be able to order the FBI to kill a target that is about to detonate a bomb that could kill thousands?

    Really?

    If anybody thinks he is guilty, then get an impeachment and conviction. Why not just follow the process?

    What you really want is to throw the process out the window for your partisan desires.

    Thats dangerous.

    So you want to apply some subjective determination on the process to justify throwing it out.

    This line of thinking is so dangerous. This is radicalization.
     
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    :roflol:

    Wow, when you tee one up, it's a doozie!

    If you haven't read it, how did you form your opinion? The same way you form your many other uninformed opinions?

    How could anyone find you credible?
     

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