Iowa lawmakers take aim at fake meat

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Who would have a problem calling lab grown meat "vegan meat"? As long as the packet states that it is vegan, many vegans would choose to eat it
     
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    I just read the labels of what I'm eating. It's not hard to do.
     
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    Since it's grown from Animal cells, even though no Animal was killed, many Vegans may have issues with that
     
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  4. FreshAir

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    that is why laws that make corps put stuff on the labels is a good thing
     
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    Which is already happening and why I have no problem knowing what is meat and what is fake meat
     
  6. FreshAir

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    so what is your issue then.... lol, if we both agree laws that allow us to know what we are eating are good, we should agree on this one
     
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    Actually...the old research showing the risk of heart disease from eating red meat is now being seen as flawed. New studies are showing that the risk is minimal or non existent. Of course the new research is getting a lot of flak from the establishment. https://bigthink.com/health/red-meat-cancer-not-health-risk/

    People who don't eat meat have to be VERY careful with their diet to make sure they get what they need since meat is no longer a part of it. That tells me meat is an important part of a diet.

    That said---to each its own.
     
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    OMG...I've only stated my issue like 3 or 4 times now. I'll say it again...my issue is that it amazes me that there are people who can't tell the difference between real meat and fake meat or regular milk vs almond milk. That they need something more than what is already on the packaging to help them out. Basically it amazes me how stupid some people are.
     
  9. FreshAir

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    so do you know which fruit and vegetables are GMO? corps will only do what they are required to do, especially if they know the consumer won't like it

    when they put meat in a product, only way to know what it is, real or lab grown is labeling
     
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    they can if the label gives that information, so how does this law reduce competition from meatless products in your opinion?
     
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    One way is organic. Another is size. GMO fruits tend to be larger than normal.

    Any product that has "meat" in it for vegans will indicate it's vegan and therefore not real meat.
     
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    Organic is easy to determine.... GMO not so much

    unless it's lab meat, maybe that will be Vegan, just call it "JUST BEANS", even though no beans in it
     
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    It's just one more bureaucratic hoop that the meat substitute producers must jump through, which will likely result in many of them refusing to do business in Iowa. Who suffers? Iowans who want meatless food options.
     
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    That was your link that mentioned "70 grams of red meat or processed meat per day". Any more than that, and your link stated that there is risk of earlier death. The meat intTwo McDonalds small hamburgers is well over 70 grams. Yes, the fries are horrible.
     
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    I'm not saying that red meat can't be part of a healthy diet. I looked at this link, and I looked at the previous UK link. This link didn't go into any detail. The UK link put out a number of a max of "70 grams of red meat or processed meat per day". Beyond that, they stated that there is a risk of earlier death. As mentioned earlier, that's about 1-1/2 small McDonalds burgers. And hold the fries and the mayo.
     
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    I know. Margarine tastes bad. No food normally made with butter tastes as good when made with margarine.
     
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    this is not just for vegan food, it's for lab grown meat - just means they need to say what the product really is, not be misleading

    in the same way tat calling lab grown meat... "JUST BEANS" would be misleading
     
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    Generally I like transparency, but I don’t like required labels that imply something is bad or gross unless unequivocally proven like carcinogens in tobacco.

    Requiring those stupid hormone free cow labels on milk would be wrong if no harm has ever been demonstrated. If you require GMO labeling, it should come with a disclaimer that GMO foods have been found to be safe for consumption, but there are environmental concerns, e.g.
     
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    fast food is not real food and should not be used to determine if it's bad.... especially if it includes a bun and fries fried in seed oil

    these studies were done with food questioners, which are not very good for coming up with such results for things like meat, eggs and milk

    especially with all the bias from those that want everyone to stop eating meat
     
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    does that mean bad?

    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...alternatives-veggie-burgers-pass/73268076007/

    "The legislation requires meat and egg alternatives, including Impossible Burgers and Beyond Burgers, to include qualifying phrases like "meatless" or "imitation" if they're sold at Iowa stores."

    if it's GMO, just label it that way, that doesn't mean t's bad, just means it's GMO
     
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    My analysis was just the meat from the 2 burgers. Look at this link ---

    https://www.tastingtable.com/1146350/whats-the-ideal-serving-size-for-prime-rib/

    According to Food Network, it's generally acceptable to supply one pound of prime rib per adult and half a pound per child that you'll be serving. The Kitchn adds that this means it's a good plan to prepare one bone-in rib for every two guests.

    One pound of prime rib equals 453 grams, and your link states that you should eat a max of 70 grams per day. This is the problem with meat eating in America. The serving sizes are huge. There's a reason for that. Meat has ZERO dietary fiber, so you don't feel full when eating a very small 70 gram portion. Now add a lot of veggies (like a big salad) to a small meat portion, and you'll feel full, because the veggies have a lot of dietary fiber.
     
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    yes, two fast food burgers are not the best if with a bun and fries

    not sure if they are real meat, but if they are, the burger alone is not bad - but not something I would eat often

    and I would never eat the fake burger with bun and fries fried in seed oil
     
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