Five killed in mass stabbing at Sydney's Bondi Junction

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Knives don’t cause cavitation unless it was really filthy and infection sets in. The PM photos you may have seen in your work are not the same as the two weeks later necrotising mess caused by shockwaves and or fragmentation.
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/watch-video-case-study-high-velocity-gunshot-wound-dan-pronk

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9462949/
     
  2. Bowerbird

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    No your overall crime is up and DGUs are only a small fraction of responses to that crime
     
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    so you are changing the goal posts to TWO WEEKS LATER

    OMG that'f funny

    what's even more hilarious is this is all a facade. You already explained why you came here to complain about our gun rights and it was due to the NRA lampooning the idiocy of the Australian bed wetting over a mass shooting.
     
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    Our crime is up because our economy is in decline and our law enforcement was 'defunded.' There is no official ongoing count of DGUs because the vast majority of them prevent crime, and people rarely report crimes that dont happen.
     
  5. Arkanis

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    Yes, I deny it.

    All studies show that the first reflex of a civilian caught in a mass shooting is to flee.

    Whether armed or not.

    Further proof that putting more guns in the hands of civilians is no solution.

    Further proof that putting more guns in the hands of civilians is no solution.
     
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    that's just denying reality. because even the most anti gun propaganda centers have admitted armed citizens have stopped some mass shootings. I have a great idea-if you are afraid of being armed-which you seem to be, then don't be armed. I will choose to be armed and rely on my years of training
     
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  7. Arkanis

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    This is not true.

    Crime rates are down virtually everywhere in the country, including the homicide rate.

    This is not true.

    The presence of armed guards in schools has no effect.

    It doesn't deter shooters (because they're crazy), and it doesn't reduce the number of victims, because many guards flee the scene when they hear gunshots.

    Even the police hesitate to enter schools when there's an active shooter.... like in Uvalde.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...ferral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_term=021621
     
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  8. Arkanis

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    Less than 3% of mass shootings are stopped by armed civilians.

    That's reality.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well shootings that are stopped BEFORE THEY ARE COUNTED A MASS SHOOTINGS are ignored.

    so your statistics are irrelevant. and how many mass shootings are stopped by UNARMED CIVILIANS

    yeah,

    your argument fails
     
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  10. Arkanis

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    Prove it.

    Sure.

    All the scientists who compile the statistics are idiots.
     
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  11. Bush Lawyer

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    @HockeyDad

    Don't feel too bad Mate, all the bigots, biased and prejudiced (yeah, we have plenty of them down here) came out swinging early just like you, and just like you, are now eating cold crow.

    Lone whitey arzehole from Toowoomba Queensland, conservative heartland, with mental issues.

    Like I said in the OP, another Bryant but not as efficient as he had no automatic rifle. The prick would have slaughtered hundreds if he had one.
     
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    cannot prove a negative and you know that. It's like trying to prove how many cases of AIDS were prevented by the guy on top wearing a rubber.

    I find it amusing that hard core anti gun types are willing to believe any and all the obviously bogus propaganda of anti gun propaganda centers yet reject common sense and obvious arguments that counter their faith
     
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    this sort of hyperbolic bullshit is why no one who understands firearms takes the anti gun arguments seriously.
     
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    Absolutely!
     
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    I know you never prove anything you say on this forum.

    And you refute every scientific study that contradicts your beliefs.

    So arguing with you is rather pointless.
     
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    actually I do but you deny facts, you deny citations and you deny reality. There are no scientific studies that prove your contention that honest Americans ought to be disarmed.
     
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    Statistica is not a “scientific study”.
     
  18. Arkanis

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    Your personal experiences, your perceptions and your biased conception of reality are not facts.

    There are dozens of studies showing a correlation between the level of violence (homicide rates, mass shootings etc.) in a society and the proliferation of guns.

    But scientists are all idiots.
     
  19. Bush Lawyer

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    Neither hyperbolic or bullshit. Fact.
     
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  20. Bush Lawyer

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    Nah, Mr Dude said it was hyperbolic bullshit, so it must be. My bad.

    :sniff:
     
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    the DOJ FBI statistics are. Do you deny violent crime rate in the USA has declined over the last thirty years

    and again-we know that crime rates don't drive your anti gun advocacy. You admitted that
     
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    so you think one person with an automatic rifle can kill HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE

    find one case where that has happened you obviously know nothing about heat retention etc
     
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    so tell us why you cannot explain why the level of violent crime in the USA has gone way done in 30 years while the number of guns has increased by well over 100 million. Combine that with the fact that in the last 30 years millions more Americans can lawfully carry firearms in public

    sort of bitch slaps your entire theory doesn't it?

    and we both know that public safety is only a facade gun banners hide behind
     
  24. Arkanis

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    Prove to me, with a scientific study, that there's a correlation between an increase in guns and a drop in the crime rate.

    Because in reality, the US has a homicide rate on average 6 times higher than any other advanced nation with strict gun laws.
     
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    No they are not. You are conflating raw stats with published research.
    Plus

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    correlation does not necessarily imply causation
     

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