Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...

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  1. Ddyad

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    I suppose the country needed to be reminded of the DP’s long history of organizing Lynch mobs to deal with political opposition.

    ““Resist the urge to flee the courtroom,” prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said, cautioning jury candidates not to agonize over why they, of all people, wound up as prospects on Trump’s trial. “This case has nothing to do with your personal politics,” Steinglass told potential jurors. “It’s not a referendum on the Trump presidency or a popularity contest or indication of who you’re going to vote for in November. We don’t care.”

    “One potential juror repeatedly tried to avoid disclosing his opinion of Trump. “If we were sitting at a bar, I’d be happy to tell you, but in this room what I feel about President Trump is not important or inherent to either the case you’re presenting or you’re defending.”
    After repeated prodding, he conceded: “Look: I’ll say I’m a Democrat, so there you go, that’s where it goes with me,” but, he insisted, “I walk in here and he’s a defendant.””
    THE GUARDIAN, Surreal scenes as jurors in New York trial tell Trump what they really think, Dozens indicated they could not be fair and impartial to the ex-president in his home town – others were even more expressive, By Victoria Bekiempis in New York, Wed 17 Apr 2024 04.00 EDT. (emphasis mine)

    “Surreal” kangaroo courts holding political show trials are not smart politics in a nation that already distrusts all of its major institutions.
    Well, not smart unless all the kangaroos are clandestine agents for the Trump campaign. ;-)
     
  2. hawgsalot

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    I think most that aren't trolling understand this thing is beyond legal competence. Yes, in law you can find technicalities to win a case but trying to find minut technicalities to put some on on trial no eventually it's getting overturned, all to undermine an ongoing election, I thought was going too far in America. Unfortunately, that's just not the case anymore and it saddens me for my child.

    The Georgia case at least has a question of a law that could've been broken so let's try it. This NY Lawsuit is sickening, the Jack Smith Case, although I believe letting Biden off the hook hurts them, I'm fine with taking it to trial if legal. This Bragg case is a gross of an abuse of authority as I've ever seen.
     
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    And what about the secret defense documents Trump stole, showed to a reporter and refused to return to the national archives despite subpoena?
     
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    Trump didn't know!
     
  5. Noone

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    Yep, but ... IF you're tRaitor tRump ... they could be life changing.
    Who said there was? :spin:
    Well, not so fast. IF you make (misdemeanor) fraudulent entries in your books to obfuscate felony election fraud then it becomes a felony too. Which extends the statute of limitations.

    Copilot
    Using the web
    "The statute of limitations for the crime of falsifying business records can vary depending on the jurisdiction and the degree of the offense. In New York, where the charges against former President Trump were filed, the statute of limitations for misdemeanors, which include falsifying business records in the second degree, is two years1. However, it becomes a felony if the person falsified business records with an intent to commit another crime OR to aid or conceal the commission of a crime2. The statute of limitations for such felony offenses is typically longer3.

    It's not heart science or rocket surgery either.
    That, right now, tRaitor tRump is up to his neck in.
    The prosecution is claiming that tRaitor tRump's motivation for this WAS to get elected.

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  6. hawgsalot

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    Ok let's see what we got, no problem with that as I stated. Now even you know the President can't "steal" a document lol but let's see what we're dealing with in court!
     
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    A former president can indeed steal a document. You need to talk to the professional idiots who told you otherwise.
     
  8. hawgsalot

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    Well smart one we tried but you're simply not worth the trouble anymore.
     
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    No, I don't.

    Because I've read the indictment, and my prediction is that this is the case in which Trump is most likely to do time.
     
  10. hawgsalot

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    The discussion was on defense documentation and a president can go anywhere he wants with it in his pocket if he wants. For that matter he can declassify it if he wants.
     
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    Not after he leaves office. After he leaves office, official documents are no longer his. He has to turn them over. Hence why Trump lied and hid these documents: because he knew he was committing a crime . . . and here you are defending that crime.
     
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    Damn I said ok let's see what you have at trial, and ya'll still go all TDS. I swear are you a russian bot?
     
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    True as well, just like the documents at Biden's house from the 80's and obama presidency right?
     
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    Obama didn't take any documents into his personal custody, so far as I've seen. And there is no evidence that Biden did so intentionally. Unlike with Trump, who objectively stole them.
     
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    I had forgotten about this one.
    March 29, 2018

    '5 Times David Pecker and The Enquirer Defended or Championed Trump'

    Saudi cash and a special edition
    Mr. Pecker visited the White House in July 2017 and took along with him a special guest, a French businessman who advises one of Saudi Arabia’s richest men. Through an Oval Office visit and at dinner with Mr. Trump, Mr. Pecker showcased his access to the president — and word got back to Saudi Arabia.

    Several months later, Mr. Pecker traveled to Saudi Arabia. In January, he sought Saudi investors to help bankroll a possible acquisition of Time magazine, according to two people with direct knowledge of the matter. American Media disputed that. As Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, arrived this month for a tour of the United States, Mr. Pecker’s company published a 97-page magazine about Saudi Arabia that glosses over troubling details about the kingdom.

    There is no mention of the Saudi-led military campaign in Yemen, human rights concerns or the crown prince’s arrest last fall of many extended royals.'

    cont
    https://web.archive.org/web/2018033...ics/trump-national-enquirer-david-pecker.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/us/politics/trump-national-enquirer-david-pecker.html
     
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    We are about to find out if political show trials and kangaroo justice is finally "too far in America".

    I have yet to see DJT question the integrity of the justice system that has convicted countless innocents through prosecutorial and judicial misconduct for decades. He should have done that while in the WH. Better late than never.
    https://innocenceproject.org
     
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    Wooing Saudi Business, Tabloid Mogul Had a Powerful ...
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    https://www.nytimes.com › business › media › david-pe...

    Mar 29, 2018 — A dinner at the White House helped David J. Pecker, whose company owns The National Enquirer, showcase his connections as he sought to ...
     
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    I have no issue with it but yes he did and put it in a warehouse in downtown chicago. They wanted them back he said nope they're secure and they negotiated, put their locks on it and called it an NR facility. All fine with me, I don't care about Biden's either although it was so loosy goosy it was disturbing this guy is the leader of the free world. I also have no doubt Trump is a bi#$$ to deal with and that he plays the woo is me card to often. I personally can't stand him and won't vote for him nor biden. That being said, I don't believe you single him out if you're now going to make it a crimnal act, to date it's been a record keeping act with zero criminal punishment attached. Now when Trump announces he's running it's the end of the world. I mean seriously the way they raided Maralago I was expecting charges of treason. Then we find Biden had them in garage by the vet, the Chinese paid office at Penn, at his vaca house basically every where they looked they found classified and some from when he was a senator which he had to steal out of a skiff. If it's not a big deal with Biden you better have some damn good firm reasons why it's a huge deal for trump. The country is tired of the divide and the appearance of judicial unfairness.
     
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    The facts are on MY side. The trouble from the "begining" and "anymore" is I keep proving you've chosen an indefensible position.
     
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    Who owned and operated that warehouse? Hint: it wasn't Obama. Hint: You couldn't possibly be more wrong.
     
  21. hawgsalot

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    Can you not post a free article or at minimum summarize it. The white house is all about wooing foreign dignitaries and rich guys, always has been, so what's the big deal?
     
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    OK buddy. You keep on showing me up from the begining. lol
     
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    Fully packing and ready to debate those who at least educate themselves on the topic.
     

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