Some College Students Are Not Too Smart

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  1. Tipper101

    Tipper101 Well-Known Member

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    cant explain it I see. Go ahead and try. I’d love to see you embarrass yourself
     
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    When you hear the following slogans and see them on signs, it’s had to ignore.

    • “From the river to the sea! Palestine must be free!”
    • “October 7 ten times is not enough, 100 times not enough, 1,000 times no enough, 10,000 times!”
    • “I am Hamas!”
    • “Gas the Jews!”
    • “I support the Final Solution!”
    • “Jews, chock on your own spit!”
     
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    Youdo love your ancient right wing tropes!
     
  4. JohnHamilton

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    No, I make observations you don’t like.
     
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  5. Tipper101

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    Youdo love crappy grammar
     
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    There are reasons to be concerned about innocent Palestinian civilians. Those who support Hamas a reaping the fruits of their radicalism and hate.

    As for the innocents, how about the refusal of Egypt and Jordon to allow refugees to cross their borders?

    Recently the U.S. has been building an offshore platform to supply aid to the refugees. Hamas has tried to bomb it. If Hamas is doing what it can to deny aid to its own citizens, isn’t it time to stop supporting Hamas?
     
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    Only the first of those slogans is common among the protestors, and they don't mean what you claim to think they do by it... as should be obvious from the "Palestine must be free" part of the slogan.
    Now, contrast that to Nettenyahu's regime also saying "From the River to the Sea". Should we leap to bad faith conclusions about what they must mean?
     
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    He’d showing us how educated he is. As an ignorant, uneducated, right wing knuckle dragger, I had to look up “trope.” It’s a lesser used word for cliche. Thanks for expanding my vocabulary!
     
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    Those shouting about the former VASTLY outnumer those who support the latter. Disingenous people try to conflate the two, in an attempt to make excuses for the former.

    That's bad, but its no excuse for Nettanyahu's actions, or for the USA funding them.
     
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    So they have proposed a solution.

    So there is a solution they purpose (if fighting stops innocent people will not doe in huge numbers), you just don't agree with it.
     
  11. JohnHamilton

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    I know exactly what it means, and you should too. It means the Jews should expelled from Israel and driven into the Mediterranean Sea. The PLO used it before Hamas did.

    Hey, if you support terrorism, it’s your first amendment right. I strongly disagree with you.
     
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    I’m really glad to know I could go to a Republican rally and there could be a small group of kkk and if anyone had a problem with me still being there you’d be the first to make sure to clear up the distinction for them.

    Or

    is guilt by association, while worthless as a legal matter, still have some value in identifying good points about people and their moral and intellectual flaws?
     
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    Hamas has declared they want Israel to no longer exist.
    It is not a matter of being weak. Israel would be put in the position of trying to find the individual Hamas terrorists. The person hiding has the decided advantage.
    They likely won't until Hamas as a fighting force ceases to exist. Hamas started it and leaving any of them will just prolong it.
     
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    Take note that the URL for his link was cnn/opinion. Opinions aren't right or wrong. They are just opinions. He has his and you have yours. I prefer yours.
     
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    That's what Hamas means by it. Is that what protestors at American universities mean by it? Are you presuming so without asking them? Because, for the vast majority of them, it isn't.

    And now you are trying to pretend I support terrorism. This is bad faith writ large.
     
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    Yes, I would. I have spoken up for exactly that on this forum when people tried to disingenously pretend Trump supporters are all about white supremacy.
     
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    Yes, you cling to ancient right wing tropes.

    This particular pice of anti learning “wisdon” is such an old trope that I’ve encountered it in history (in edition to hearing it all my life0
     
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    That's how terrorist organizations tend to behave, yes. That should not be transfered to what we think about their victims, including Palestinian children.

    That's exactly the position they are in yes. It is the position anyone hunting down terrorists or other criminals is in.

    I don't find it likely that Israel will ever accept that Hamas has ceased to exist, even if it does.
     
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    They are college students. Are they really that dumb? If they want to chant something, they should come up with something else, which does not have an obvious meaning.

    If you want to talk about “bad faith,” bring it on. You can’t support those who support Hamas and end up in any other place. The Hamas goal is genocide. There is no other way to put it. There is no reforming that organization.
     
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    It is the core value of Trumpism. He seldom misses a chance to push that button. He launched his first campaign with flagrant appeals to it.
     
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    Of course, this is not true. Hamas targeted Isreali forces at a staging area. No where near any US personel.
     
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    Right now, Israel is leading Hamas in the “genocide” race at about tge rate of 35 to 1. Not to mention the massive destruction sisplacement na mass starvation. This is Israel’s legacy.
     
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    So, is that Jewish student in the article I quote also a Hamas supporter? Of course, if people don't read and just listen to RW media, it is no surprise that they believe everyone who wants the peace process to restart is a Hamas supporter.

    BTW: I am not sure why posts are not removed that baslessly accuse posters of being Hamas supporters.
     
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    Good for you, at least you’re consistent.

    I personally however would have big problems with me associating myself with kkk. Or, perhaps more accurately, them associating their ideology with an event that has nothing to do with it. I would thus feel inclined either to tell them to F off or simply leave, and the last thing I would do is stand side by side with them, kick back some beers together and share a tent, and if I did all that, I feel I wouldn’t have much argument to make with someone who told me I supported kkk ideology.
     
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    Dude if you are carrying a sign that says gays for Hamas you clearly are an Ignorant tool. Same is true for for almost any other member of the alphabet mafia. There is no such thing as openly gay in Iran and much of the rest of the Muslim world where openly gay pretty much translates to dead the next day.
     

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