Aileen Cannon begins unredacting filings against Jack Smith's demands

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.469.0.pdf

That's cute and all, but I notice you entirely dodged the response to the actual question you were asked.

The question you were asked was : WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THIS DOCUMENT

 

It's not the strangest thing in the world for a naked accusation against a 3rd party that would otherwise constitute defamation per se to be redacted in public access filings.

 

Did you read any of the redactions? Most of them are covering up the early involvement of the justice department. NARA clearly jumped the gun on all this. They barely even gave it 6 months before they started the process of indicting him. That is NOT what we'd been led to believe.

 

DEFENDANTS’ MOTIONS TO COMPEL DISCOVERY .... So what.

What does the document title of this document NOT SAY... thanks to Judge Cannon...
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.469.1.pdf

IT DOES NOT SAY

 

Do you you know what the difference in the redacted and unredacted documents of the "DEFENDANTS’ MOTIONS TO COMPEL DISCOVERY" that refers directly to the Ex. 1 in post 79???

 

Do you see the difference of what Jack Smith was trying to hide by redacting the "DEFENDANTS’ MOTIONS TO COMPEL DISCOVERY" referred to in post 80..

 

May I add..... it directly involves the Joe Biden WH.... which by Joe's own words had nothing to do with it... his WH was involved as he claims he was letting the Justice Dept run it's own show... but his WH staff and counsel was right in the middle... Dana Remus being one of them... she was the one rummaging through the Penn Biden classified docs 6 months (May) before the lie they told us in November to coverup Joe Biden's classified documents...

""President Joe Biden: I have not asked for the specifics of those documents because I don't want to get myself in the middle of whether or not the Justice Department should move or not move on certain actions they could take. I-- I agreed I would not tell them what to do and not, in fact, engage in telling them how to prosecute or not.""

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-joe-biden-60-minutes-interview-transcript-2022-09-18/

https://twitter.com/60Minutes/statu...eaks-allegations-against-trump-011431864.html

 

They always work with the outgoing team, it's their job. The problem was when the outgoing team refused to cooperate with them over a year that they had to seek help.

Of course they worked with the White House, they have no powers to arrest nor subpoena and had to turn to those that did. It's called following procedures.

That you'll have to show me.

 

poor trumpers, Trump is in trouble for not giving them back when asked, not for taking them

play stupid games, win stupid prizes

 

When I provide you with the facts, and you willfully ignore them, it tells me facts are the last thing you are interested in.

Special counsel Robert Hur noted the differences between investigations into President Joe Biden’s and former President Donald Trump’s handling of classified documents in a section of his report on Thursday.

The Hur report said that Trump’s case was different from Biden’s because the former president allegedly “obstructed justice” after being given chances to return classified documents.

“Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite,” the report said. “According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it.”

The report compared Trump’s alleged behavior with Biden’s, laying out the ways the president cooperated with the special counsel throughout the course of the investigation.

“In contrast, Mr. Biden alerted authorities, turned in classified documents to the National Archives and the Department of Justice in 2022 and 2023, consented to the search of multiple locations including his homes, permitted the seizure and review of handwritten notebooks he believed to be his personal property, and in numerous other ways cooperated with the investigation.”

 

The timeline of the NARA's actions is well documented. Trying to pin Trump's troubles on the NARA instead of this........
“Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite,” the report said. “According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it.”.........is ludicrous.

 

Poor trump adoring rightists. They are all still under the impression that their hero was indicted for simply having boxes of documents. Y'all really should take the time to actually read the indictments.

 

Taking them is NOT a crime unless you can prove an intent to take them.

We are talking about two different issues

The TAKING of the documents with intent. Neither Biden nor Trump has been charged with that crime - 18 USC 793(f)

It's the WILLFUL RETENTION of the documents that Trump has been charged with - 18 USC 793(e)

Biden did not "willfully retain" the documents found in his residence or office. Just the opposite. As soon as they were found it was arranged to return them.

 

Or read the specific statue he has been charged with violating.

 

So what?

CONTEXT
This a a filing by the defense.

 

In bold, nonsense as related to actual criminal prosecution.

 

Biden didn't accidentally take classified documents from the SCIF. Also, the law says "gross negligence" is a legal standard that makes it a crime.

 

This is exactly why he didn't bring charges on the most top secret documents, fear of their exposure.

 

Biden know about the document for months before turning them in. And you still haven't provided anything where it says senators are allowed to keep documents for years or to even take them in the first place

 

Did you say turning them in? As in not........“Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite,” the report said. “According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it.”

Do you see the difference?

 

These documents about Mar-a-lago are constantly called "marked classified".... they never say they are just "classified".... they are very careful in the filings to say "marked classified"....words have meanings..

 

In January 2022 Trump turned over 15 boxes of documents to NARA
The FBI requested access to those documents to determine if any had national security implications
Trump then sued to PREVENT the FBI from accessing the documents and the case was assigned to Aileen Cannon.
Cannon's court had no jurisdiction over this case and it should have ended right there. Instead Cannon issued an insane ruling that she had "equitable jurisdiction" in the case and then ruled that a "special master" was to be assigned to review the documents to determine which ones the FBI could have access to and which ones they could not.
Cannon's ruling was appealed and the 11th circuit issued a scathing unanimous decision removing Cannon from jurisdiction and negating the Special Master.

 

There is a very simple reason for that.

Trump is charged with multiple violations of 18 USC 793(e).

Under that statute the classification status of the documents is absolutely irrelevant. It doesn't matter if the documents he is charged with willfully retaining are classified or not. The RW constantly screaming about how Trump declassified the documents means zero.

I need to repeat this. Under 18 USC 793(e) the classification status of the documents is absolutely irrelevant. The documents are MARKED CLASSIFIED, whether or not they are ACTUALLY CLASSIFIED is 100% not relevant.

The importance of them being "marked classified" is that shows that the documents are "related to the national defense" which is the ONLY requirement of 18 USC 793(e)

It's only Trump and his sycophants who are crying about "But Trump declassified them".

Even IF he did (which I do not think he did) it doesn't matter to the charge he has been indicted for.

 

It is this simple...
Jack Smith sealed the documents to coverup the Joe Biden WH involvement and "special access request" in the attack on his opponent and raid on his home..
Judge Cannon unsealed the truth and exposed the corruption of this stunt.......

 

It's nothing like that...except in Trump fantasy land

You are free to show me where anything I said is incorrect.