Not Even the Trump Supreme Court has entirely abandoned Justice for Trumpery

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  1. nopartisanbull

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    Quote; “Whoever claimed there are no limits on Presidential actions, no one.”

    Headline; Trump urges Supreme Court to endorse absolute immunity

    Headline; Trump tells appeals panel he should have absolute immunity

    Trump’s belief/claim; “I have absolute immunity for everything I did while in office”…….hence both presidentially and privately.

    And of course MAGAs were supportive of Trump’s belief and demand for absolute immunity.

    And prior to SCOTUS oral arguments, no MAGA on this site has ever said; “But my dear leader Mr. Trump, for private actions while in office, you are not immune”.
     
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  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The plan seems to be to put the threat out there in the belief employees will fall in line. It's classic authoritarian intimidation.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We all knew the fix was in when the conservatives took an ostensibly ridiculous case in the first place.
     
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    Rather than acknowledging that as evidenced by the links you provided, you erred in assuming that Republican-appointed judges will render judgment in lockstep with Republican wishes, you instead bogusly continue to push this false narrative regardless.

    It is hard to fathom why you would make this post. It goes against your narrative despite you acting as if it does not. You have set up this self fulfilling prophecy where if they uphold Republican issues they are biased, but if they go against Republicans, well then even this Republican court couldn't support their overreach. The entire notion is silly. They are either in the tank for Republicans or they are not. The links you provided show that they are not.

    Does this reality make you rethink your initial assumption that they are biased? Of course not. Lather, rinse, repeat.
     
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  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Since it was a forgone conclusion that the SC would just send it back to the lower courts, their acceptance was to delay, nothing else.

    Trump was well aware of all the substantive evidence and sworn testimony against him, and could only hope to defer justice, not vindicate himself.
     
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    But this is the decision before the Supreme Court
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    To the contrary, I noted Supreme Court rulings that are in contradiction of the Trump Party line:



     
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    I also regard attacking the SC for not always supporting your position to also be partisan.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's banana republic stuff.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If acknowledging their fairness is your objective, why are you still pushing the "activist judges" cannard?
     
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  11. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I have not attacked the Supreme Court.

    You may have me confused with Trump goons and the Supreme Court with Congress:

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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I recognize that judges who overthrow a half-century of established, accepted law - despite their misleading testimony before the Senate - are "activist" by definition.

    Polls and referenda in red as well as blue states confirm it.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are these not your words? Sure sounds like an attack to me.

     
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    And as usual when reporting on what is being talked about the media spins what is said. There is a doctrine called "absolute immunity". It was derived from Nixon v Fitzgerald. LINK: Nixon v. Fitzgerald :: 457 U.S. 731 (1982) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center

    This is not a new concept.

    No one on this site communicates directly with Trump. So that is a BS line to start with. And I talked about the same exact thing that has been discussed in the SCOTUS hearing before the SCOTUS hearing ever took place. Which was on April 24th. Here's several of my posts that specifically say "for Presidential actions" from back in March.

    This next one was back in February.
    And I have others. But that is more than enough to show that we've only been talking about Presidential Actions only.

    And in case you try and use semantics that I never mentioned "private acts" here is @FreshAir responding to one of my posts and my response to him...

     
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    Did you miss the words “civil lawsuit”??
     
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    Did you miss the words "doctrine" and "absolute immunity" and "official action"? Did you miss the part where @nopartisanbull was talking about how "MAGA's" "believe" that "absolute immunity" applies to anything and everything in his attempt to rebut my previous post? Which my past posts clearly do not support.

    Try keeping things in context and stop cherry picking/spinning.
     
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    Be specific...what is the decision before the Supreme Court?
     
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    It is pretty simple... if any president does something bad.... Congress, not the Judicial, decides his fate first by impeachment and removal... 14th amendment section 5 and 3... only then can he be prosecuted... it is the safety valve of our system... the founders intended it that way...
     
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    While I am pro abortion, Roe was nonsensical law.

    It was based on clearly bogus legal reasoning. IT was the epitome of judicial activism.

    Overturning judicial activism is NOT judicial activism.
     
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    It seems you have Justice and Political Ideology mixed up.
     
  22. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You may wish to make contact with reality by acquainting yourself with legitimate sources of news.

    Not one of the Trump goons who have been convicted or confessed have mentioned being led astray by demonic forces controlling their minds.
     
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    He would have to kill them, wouldn't he?

    Just kidding, but my point is that the right under Donald Trump has collectively lost the ability to consider consequences.
     
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    You're entitle to an opinion no matter how ridiculous. Rant oh, bro!
     
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    Republicans may not believe in absolute immunity, just whatever immunity is enough for Trump to not be responsible for anything he did. And only Trump.
     
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