Could Benjamin Netanyahu Go To Jail? | If You’re Listening

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  1. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    No longer can the anti Israel crowd say that they are not anti-Semitic.

    Also they’ve lost the ability to say the pro Palestinian side is not simply pro Hamas.
     
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    Everybody is an antisemitie.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol, either you are lying or just ignorant as hell. which is it?
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some Jews are being anti-semitic as they slaughter Palestinians, who are also semites. Why is it ok to slaughter some semites, but not others? It is not ok to slaughter any of them, yet some Jewish semites seem to think it is ok to slaughter non-Jewish semites.
     
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    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    Its no genocode, he leads a war. What Palestinians tried on Octobre 7th was a genocide. So its pretty obvious who the genocide supporters are.
     
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    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Nice hair splitting. When the term anti-Semitic is being used today, no one associated that with anti-Arab or anti -Palestinian.

    If Palestinians don’t want to be slaughtered, stop launching rockets into Israeli neighborhoods and shopping areas. Stop attacking Israeli concert venues.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, before October 7th, were you vocalizing your support for Palestine as they have been crushed by Israel year after year? Or did you expect them to just submit to the brutality inflicted on them year after year?
    Did you say "Well, Israel, if you don't want attacks launched against you, stop imprisoning, killing, oppressing, and stealing the lands of Palestinians." Did you say any of that? Or is your support only for one set of humanity?
     
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    This bribery etc.case against Netanyahu has been dragging out for years, typical for Israel when Bibi's involved.
    Aspects of the media charges have similarities with the National Enquirer & Trump.

    Over half of Israelis believe Netanyahu should resign immediately - poll
    54% of respondents said that elections should be held earlier.
    By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
    APRIL 30, 2024 22:43
    Updated: MAY 1, 2024 11:53

    'Over half (58%) of the Israeli public believes that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should resign immediately, including 28% of those who voted for the bloc that supports Netanyahu, according to a poll published by N12 on Tuesday.

    Additionally, 48% of Israelis believe Defense Minister Yoav Gallant should resign immediately, 50% believe IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi should resign immediately, and 56% believe Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) head Ronen Bar should resign now.'

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    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-799279
     
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  9. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    The Palestinians can live in peace with Israel if their leadership had that as a goal, but they don’t.

    Palestinian leadership continually calls for the extermination of Israel and the Jewish people. When they initiate hostilities, Israel responds and crushes their nuts.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And why do you think there is so much animosity against Israel?
     
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    Or is simply uninformed or has blinders on when it comes to Israel. This situation is a result of both parties behaving in ways that are counter to living in peaceful cooperation .Their mutual antagonism has a long history now of wars , provoking each other and then more hostilities. Neither party shows sincere evidence of wanting to resolve these chronic issues. Neither party is showing interest in diffusing the hosties. They would rather keep laming each other and perpetuating these horrific riffs and because of the extreme emotional aspect to the situation.......they are no longer objective.
     
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    Unlike Israel, the Palestinians did not help the U.S in the Vietnam War.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would say not helping in the Vietnam war is a plus. We shouldn't even have been fighting that war.
     
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    Israel like to sale American arms and US secrets to US enemies such as china
     
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    This is too silly for words.

    Nobody thinks that terrorist event was a threat to Israeli existence.

    What it did was to put the issue of the Israeli war on Gaza back on the map.

    For far too long, it's just rolled along as Israel's siege of Gaza and Gaza's firing of pathetic untargetable rockets into the Iron Dome.
     
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    citation?
     
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    Don't be ridiculous.
     
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    That war was the largest, most stupid mistake that America had made up to that time.

    Even after years of our destruction and slaughter, I could schedule a vacation there within ten years of our "departure".
     
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    So? The same was true of post WW2 Japan and Germany.
     
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    We didn't remove the government we were fighting against in Vietnam.

    In Japan, their God lived in Japan and ordered his people to obey the Americans. And, Germany was still a western state. I and many others had relatives in Germany during the war.

    In fact, we pushed Vietnam toward being more strongly associated with China - a nation with whom they had a bloody history of defense that we ignored.
     
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    For the question whether it was a genocide or not, its irrelevant if they had a chance to annihilate all Israelis. It was clearly their goal. The decisive fact that in fact it wasnt a genocide is that they were stopped at a kill counter of about 1200.

    We can have a look at the definition of genocide:

    In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.[1][2]

    So clearly the definition could be met by

    ... intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".

    It must be a substantial part of the group or hit a certain number, as later rulings specified, which wasnt the case here. So, was it a genocide? No, thats why I didnt claim that. Did the Palestinians want to committ a genocide? Of course they did, its the official aim of the Hamas, thats why they were voted by a vast majority in Gaza in 2007. Nobody makes a secret out of it. You can see allout cheering by so called "innocent civilians" in Palestine when live dashcams of the terrorists were broadcasted how they tortured Israelis to death and when they paraded raped women through the streets.

    They want to commit genocide and those people who support them here or on the campus of the Columbia University want them to succeed in it. Thats not too silly for words, thats obvious.


    Not so shy, it did trigger the actual war, Palestinians had it coming.

    There was no siege of Gaza before that.
    Now, there is a war going on with the legitimate aim to destroy the Hamas once and for all, which is as such 100% justified as an act of self-defense. What is indeed too silly for words is the claim that Israel is committing a genocide, because unlike Hamas, their aim is not to annihilate the Palestinians as a group.

    I am still asking myself what this thread is all about. It claims to be about corruption in Israel, while in fact it turns out just as another of the dozens of threads in which anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, hate pictures and bullshit like the fairy-tale Israelis commit genocide in Gaza. How many comments are actually about corruption in Israel? I wonder how threatening Israeli corruption is for Australia, Germany, the US, France, etc.

    How honest is the intention of journalists in the West who claim they wanna talk about Israeli corruption?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–Israel_relations

    You cannot trust Israel - they had to be given a second warning about selling arms and secret information to China
    https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2003-03/news/israeli-arms-exports-china-growing-concern-us
    They tried to sell secret information to China again!
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/27/china.israel
    A really good strategy to keep your main ally's enemy well protected
    https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/israel-partnership-china/
    Let's give them cruise missiles as well
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-689286



     
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    Yes, the people cheering when women whose trousers are soaked in blood (up to your fantasy what might have happened) were certainly not all Hamas. The civilians who wanted Jewish slaves to torture or rape them are certainly not all Hamas, I realize and acknowledge that.
     
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    Sure it's real simple. :no: After all that's why it's a fact that only soldiers ever get killed or injured in wars and never civilians. As for it's fairly easy easy to spot detect people shooting at you!!! Worlds fail me. What ? You apparently think Hamas fighters stroll around Gaza in the open with their weapons on display wearing brightly colored T-shirts with caption 'Hello, I'm from Hamas. I hate Israel, please shoot me!' In large letters.

    As for 'talking to prisoners'? You obviously have zero experience in intelligence gathering or operation security. If it was as easy as you seem to think? Perhaps you can explain to the world how Israel was caught by surprise when Hamas launched it's attack in the first place?
     
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    A) Has this nothing to do with the current affairs points I originally addressed (i.e. why BiBI has little to no political maneuvering room re; the current war.)
    B) As I noted before Israel and Palestine - Not my circus, not my monkeys. So apart from the occasion current issues impacting the region (like this war) I have zero interest in deep diving into the causes of what, over the years has become a political **** show of monumental proportions.
     
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