What to think about what is going on in College campuses...

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  1. Tipper101

    Tipper101 Well-Known Member

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    Why would you be legitimately curious? Have you not been paying any attention whatsoever to what’s been said in the dozens of threads on this subject?

    ohhh I think you meant to say “illegitimately curious”. Got it.

    Keep in mind, I’ve had a few discussions with you already in which youve declared you don’t know what genocide is, don’t care to ever look it up, you won’t stop using it in every post, and you can’t understand how it matters if you use it or not.

    You are, simply put, not even credible to talk on this subject whatsoever.
     
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  2. Tipper101

    Tipper101 Well-Known Member

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    So you also think “people” means “100% civilians”. Lol. See what I mean? You simply aren’t a credible poster on this subject. You think any number you feel like is genocide and that 100% of the dead are civilians. Lol!
     
  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Taxpayer money. Most of them had their loans forgiven.
     
  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because I thought you actually MIGHT have a quote. Clearly you don't. Therefore it's obvious that you made it up.

    No problem. I'll switch you to the category of posters from which we don't expect serious posts.
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    My understanding is that neither side wants this.
     
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    And you shouldn't believe the rare, unsubstantiated claims and post them without citations. Your numbers are no more valid and accurate than mine are. But at least I get mine from standard respected sources.

    You're reaching. Why do you think The Hague and the UN are referring to it as "genocide"? I suppose they are tools of the left because they don't cheer for Trump.

    And I'll be waiting for you to explain why you know better than I do. Or maybe a Palestinian is a military person?
     
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    You're not even getting the POINT. It doesn't MATTER. The estimate of 30 thousand is considered "conservative", according to serious analysis by scientific journals like The Lancet. But it's just a snapshot in time. The actual number doesn't matter at this point. They could just as well have said "A LOT". Be it 10,000 or 50,000 it's a staggering number of innocent people. THAT is the point.

    And there is no need for these people to die. Netanyahu has blood in his hands. And MAGAs attempts to justify him means, as the OP indicates, that they don't care about human lives. Not Palestinian, not Israeli lives... They just want to use this to draw attention away from the fact that their idol is a convicted criminal.
     
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    You know we're right and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it...lol
     
  9. Kode

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    The Balfour Declaration gave away what was not theirs to give, and Jews invaded Palestine to own it and eliminate Palestinians. You must know this but I'll watch you as you deny it.

    The evidence that Netanyahoo wants all of the area for Israel and wants to eliminate the Palestinians has been obvious since he came to power.
     
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    O please the absolute nonsense you believe is amazing Nothing Trump or any one else would have done based on available info at any given time would have made a damn bit of difference.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    https://apnews.com/article/hamas-kh...1967-borders-4912532b11a9cec29464eab234045438

    We know that Netanyahu doesn't want it. The only way to know for sure is that Israel makes a call to sit down to negotiate. Let's see who shows up!

    Regardless... it's the ONLY solution. We finance Israel because they're supposed to be the adult in the room. It's time for them to SHOW that they are.
     
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    They are? Can you substantiate that with a credible link?

    Maybe you're forgetting that in 1900 Palestinians and Jews lived together in Palestine.
     
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    It’s no longer protesting when you harass & attack people, take over property, trespass, scream for the mass murder of certain individuals, and start making demands. They’re a mob, especially those too cowardly to show their faces. You don’t HIDE when you know you’re doing the right thing. You’re larping. You think you’re something you’re not.

    These kids are confused ignorant morons who need to be expelled if they don’t disperse and go back to class and all the non-student paid agitators need to be arrested.

    They don’t know WTF they’re protesting. If they went back to their dorms at night then held signs during the day, maybe did some yelling, that’s fine. This is NO LONGER protesting.
     
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    I got plenty. What do you care about it? You aren’t a serious poster so you’d just deny it or ignore. As you do all the time.

    It’s why I don’t bother when posters like you beg for me to go out of my way for them. It’s a waste of time.

    The truth is out there man. Or beg me harder and maybe I’ll consider it?
     
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    Hamas would never be part of any two-state negotiations. And they don't comprise all Palestinians. Plenty of Palestinians only accept Hamas help because there is nothing else. But they find it to be an unacceptable situation like some of us find having to accept Biden is unacceptable but necessary.
     
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    The violence has been found to be the work of anarchists who are not students but wanted to see the protest become violent. It's like they are police agent.
     
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    lol! Pssst…I didn’t post any numbers! Hoo boy you can’t get anything right can you?

    Anyone who refers to the UN as an arbiter of truth clearly has not been paying attention.

    You have a lot of studying to do.



    Why bother? The truth is in your link. Did you not read it? That’s why I’ve been so amused, that they can literally tell you from your own source that the number of dead are not all civilians and you still have no idea!
     
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    And there's the quiet part out loud...lol
     
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    And the students are right there in the middle of it, waving terrorist flags and wearing PLO do rags
     
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    Of course I acknowledge that history. What has that got to do with Muslims being the enemy?
     
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    Well there we have it, to Golem there’s no difference between 10,000 dead representing less than 1% of the population and 2.2 million representing 99%, to him, it’s all the same.

    Glad that in your world, the IDF can wipe out the rest of the Palestinians and nothing would change to you because “staggering” is all the same.



    And yeah, Hamas is super conservative with its estimates. Lol!


    And once again I’ll point out you have absolutely zero idea how the idf can do it better nor any historical example of dense urban warfare being conducted in the way you’d like with the results you’d like.
     
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    Ahistorical nonsense Jews were buying land in Palestine from the 1880's The Ottomans were willing to sell because there weren't very many people in the Palestine area at the time, most of the population of the Syrian prefecture being concentrated north of Damascus and Beirut. And note there were Jews in Palestine going back to pre Roman times
     
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    Because genocide has come to mean any number of deaths of brown people no matter how dysfunctional the society those brown people happen to inhabit might be.
     
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    Yep!

    "Actually, the numbers are likely conservative. The science is extremely clear."

    It sure is.

    30,000 was the estimate by the end of February. That's 250 per day, if we count from October 7. At that rate there would be about 15K since then.

    Of course, this poster's RIDICULOUS point is that this is a combination of civilians and combatants. Because there is no way to separate the two in the estimates. But... WHO CARES? The point is that thousands of civilians are killed only because Netanyahu refuses to do what's right!
     
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