Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    A cheek cell has unique human DNA. It doesn't make it a human life.
     
  2. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Ah, I see...you can't argue your point so anything that does not conform to your point is "off topic". Got it.

    And yes, I know Albania isn't a US State. But the law showing that we can and do prosecute people for things considered legal in other areas because those things are illegal in our area is what is at issue in this thread. The only real difference is the subject matter. And you recognize this, which is why you're trying very hard to avoid answering my questions.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry the concept of being on topic offends you, but it is a requirement. You are trying very hard to scurry and hide from and avoid the topic.
     
  4. Kal'Stang

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    Except that the human DNA in that cheek cell belongs to the human it came from. Therefore, it is not actually unique as there are millions of other cells just like it. It's just unique to that human and no other. Additionally, we're discussing actual organisms, not pieces of an individual organism.
     
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    Good luck with an attempt. I'm confident it won't fly in front of the Supreme court...no matter how they slant-- liberal or conservative.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Cool beans. That's covered by state law, not federal law. As much as you obviously hate that, it remains the case.
     
  7. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    lol yeah sure, whatever, I'll bet you can't even tell me how I'm off topic.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    We're talking about the US. Texas, specifically. You are trying to change the subject to other countries. Can you name any other law that you think a state should be allowed to enforce in other states?
     
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    So, you're denying science also? Got it.
     
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    Nope. But whatever you need to keep hiding from the topic.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Really? And here I thought we were taking about I'm talking about US Law. Are we? Or aren't we? Its a yes or no question. Anything else and you're equivocating.
     
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    Then you agree that a ZEF is a human life. Thanks!
     
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    Of course a one year old is a developing human life. That's not the argument. The argument is that we assign different values. We value a living infant over 1,000 embryos. We value a 12-year-old over a fetus. Just like we value dogs over insects and we value people over dogs. It's human nature.
     
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    Nope. But I understand why you can't talk about the actual topic.
     
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    No. We are talking about state law. This is governed by state law, not federal.
     
  16. Kal'Stang

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    :shrug: You're the one that brought up development.

    As for "value" you are correct that its human nature to assign value to various things to different degrees. Which is why there is even a debate about abortion to begin with. But it is also true that humans have a horrible history with their assigning "value" to other humans wouldn't you agree? I say take the "value" factor out as much as possible. No one is going to argue that an insects life is worth less than a human life. As such an argument about that would be worthless. However, some things should be universal. For example, theft is universally agreed upon as being a detriment to society. I believe that killing an unborn child unnecessarily should be one of those universal things. Partly due to our history of horrible assignment of value.
     
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    Then you deny science. Got it.
     
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    Thank you for confirming that we're talking about US law. That you wish to avoid talking about similar law (law which you obviously agree with) shows that your argument has no legs to stand on. The only reason you're wanting to keep this narrowed down to State Law while ignoring all other laws in existence in the US shows that its the subject that you are focusing on.
     
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    You don't believe a word you're saying because you would have no problem aborting a fetus to save the life of a 12-year-old.
     
  20. Kal'Stang

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    Think you're a mind reader huh? Might want to keep your day job as you are completely wrong.

    If its a stranger I'll flip a coin if I HAVE to choose. If its someone I know personally I will always pick the one I know personally. If I know them both then I will again flip a coin. Throughout it all I will definitely have a problem with whatever choice comes up.
     
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    I see, so you're completely fine with murdering a fetus in certain circumstances. Must be nice to be able to play both sides of the fence.
     
  22. Kal'Stang

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    Re-read what I said. Then try honestly saying that.
     
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    This is about state law, bud. State law.
     
  24. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You do what you have to in order to justify one while not accepting another. The hypocrisy of your argument is noted however.
     
  25. flyboy56

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    He certainly had a say in the matter when she got pregnant.
     

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