Biden Administration to close gun show loophole

that's a completely worthless statistic because most of those who do things that justify the police shooting them, are those who don't obey laws in the first place. Here's the bottom line-if you are afraid to own a gun, don't, but we aren't giving ours up to make people like you happy. And the bottom line is you are unable to force us to do so

 

If laws stop criminality, why do we still have murders?

 

Don't expect much of an answer. the left understands two things

1) felons aren't deterred by the existence of laws
2) law abiding people follow the laws


Passing more laws ONLY restricts the freedoms of those who obey laws
Passing more laws does nothing to deter those who already break malum per se laws

Lefties push for more laws, pretending it will impede criminals, while knowing it will harass those who obey laws

Lefties don't want to punish violent criminals since violent criminals are not a threat to their political power
Law abiding gun owners are-and thus they are the enemies of the gun banning left

 

So instead of the one of world leading top-gun-death country, we would become the undisputed leader?

 

There's no such thing as gun death.

Most of these deaths are suicide. Possessing a gun doesn't cause suicide to pretend it does is using these deaths to promote partisanship. It's pure evil.

Why can't we focus on why people are doing this?

 

Why - because they have no problem getting illegal weapons.

 

A person can commit suicide with a weapon they legally own.

2/3 of deaths from gunshot wound are suicides. If you don't care about this then it's a lie to say this is about saving lives.

I think it's more important to figure out why people feel the need to end their own life than it is to not let them have firearms legally because they can always get them illegally or into their life with some other method.

If you want to focus on the guns you are using these deaths to prop up a backward political view you're not being genuine.

These people are suffering. If you care you'd focus on that. So don't act like you care about people dying because you don't. You care about using those deaths to spite political adversaries and that's evil.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

You brought up suicide, not me - I’m talking about innocent people getting killed. And don‘t blame me, after you shift the topic of the conversation

 

You were talking about death by gunshot. If You're going to ignore the majority of them because it doesn't fit your narrative. I'm exposing your dishonest

okay so we're not talking about suicides which is about 2/3, and we're not going to talk about getting related violence which is just about the other third.

So with these sorts of occurrences being extraordinarily rare I'm not sure it's a problem that needs a drastic measure to be addressed

You were going to talk about people who died from gunshot women but you want to ignore 98% of them.

Don't bring up the topic if you don't want to talk about it.

 

like illegal drugs. and unlike guns-which will always be legal for government agencies and the military (and thus a source of diversion and black market supply), there is no legitimate market for heroin, crystal meth or LSD and people are dying from overdoses at a higher rate than those killed with firearms

 

because it doesn't fit the agenda of those who pretend they want to accentuate public safety when their real goal is harassing people who don't buy into their creeping crud of collectivist authoritarian goals

 

Yeah it's essentially the standard dictatorship handbook. There's this terrible danger that you face and you need your rights taken away so that the government can protect you.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Possibly a quote from Benjamin Franklin I'm not sure. But it's true anybody talking about how we need to make this law for safety I automatically distrust.

The government suspended all sorts of Rights to make sure we were safe from a virus and they failed. And we're still feeling that effects from this. We probably will be for quite some time to come.

I'm not a fan of the nanny State I think the government should be as small and as distant from people as possible.

 

Deflections- it’s well known that it’s way too easy to acquire illegal firearms. Most Americans know it and want background checks and closed loopholes. WTG Biden Admin.

 

what makes it easy if you can get 10 years in prison. Right now it's really easy to murder someone or to rob someone. Most americans are too stupid or ignorant to understand that there are no loopholes and the federal government doesn't have the constitutional power to demand second hand intra-state sellers of firearms conduct background checks

 

When people are wiling to break the law to get a firearm...
...you cannot stop them from getting a firearm.

 

Other countries are much more effective at this.

 

And in those countries, anyone willing to break the law can get a gun.

 

You can count gun deaths on your fingers in some of these countries. They far outshine the US in this regard.

 

If you're a mutant.
Fact remains: anyone willing to break the law can get a gun.

 

And I say it’s much harder…

 

the people most deterred from illegal activity involving guns are those who follow the law
people who rob, rape, steal and kill despite the very serious penalties imposed on those who are caught, are hardly ever deterred by a gun control law. In fact it often makes their "job" easier

 

you do know some of the countries with the strictest prohibitions on lawful people being able to own guns, have some of the highest rates of gun deaths or actual gunshot murders

 

Its -easy - to break the law.

 

Let’s look at these countries—>

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Countries like Japan, the UK, and Australia, with strict gun control laws, have significantly lower rates of gun deaths.

 

and countries such as Mexico and Brazil do not

it's worthless to compare countries and assume their gun laws are the main factor in murder or crime rates.

and let's cut the crap, public safety is not what motivates leftwing anti gun advocates. There are so many laws the left push that are purely designed to harass lawful gun owners such as the Hughes Amendment