Biden Administration to close gun show loophole

From the expert - Dettelbach of the ATF state "Repeatedly selling guns for profit, without running a criminal background check, it’s not safe for innocent, law abiding Americans.”

 

you're quoting one of the most biased POSs in the Biden administration. This guy is a hard core gun banning turd. He lies constantly.

 

I don't give a **** what Dettlebach thinks.

 

it goes to show that someone can graduate Dartmouth summa cum laude and Harvard Law magna cum laude and still be a lying dishonest scumbag who is clueless about matters he really should know

 

Well Dettelbach is the expert, you're not. Here was his total statement.

"more than 40,000 people in the United States died from gun violence last year. He said his agency is trying to reduce those numbers by taking the “trigger pullers” off the streets, and stopping them from easily obtaining firearms."

“As an American and as a dad and as a career prosecutor, it bothers me when some people follow the law, and others ignore it with no consequences,” Dettelbach told reporters. “That’s not good for the rule of law. It’s not fair for law abiding people. And moreover, when it involves repeatedly selling guns for profit, without running a criminal background check, it’s not safe for innocent, law abiding Americans.”

 

Fail. Some suicide methods are on average more successful than others and a failed suicide attempt does not always lead to another. The very fact that the main purpose of cars is transportation rather than killing/injuring people makes them more justifiable to own.

 

Why would such a ratio be valid metric? Imagine a conversation between the parent of a gun violence victim and you:

Mother: My child was killed in a school shooting.
"Reality" Poster: But millions of American children have not been killed in school shootings. I think that's a good ratio.

 

LOL, unsubstantiated rumors.

 

Because people who can't legally own guns due to a criminal record are taking advantage of the lax gun laws you support to acquire guns and use them in crimes....

 

they take advantage of the fact that they are not punished under the laws that currently exist and you labor under the delusion that passing more laws will somehow deter them. it is a ten year federal prison sentence that is available for a felon caught with a gun. how many felons do you think actually buy guns from honest sellers just because that seller is not required to do a background check?

 

why do you and the other gun banners on this board constantly pretend to care about crime when your reasons for banning guns is lawfare against people who don't support your leftist agenda? If you all actually cared about reducing crime, you'd demand that current laws be enforced. Instead you want to pass more and more laws that ONLY restrict currently legal behavior of people who have not committed any crimes with their guns

 

And so, people may still privately sell their firearms w/o running a background check in the buyer.
Thus, the "loophole" remains.
The title of the topic is a lie.

Never mind the fact there is no loophole.

 

Exactly, but most gun nuts don’t care about the well-being of the country.

 

that's actually the case with the gun banners. they want to waste time with stupid worthless laws that do nothing but tie up the courts and the police. Gun banners pretend they care about public safety when their goals include harassing law abiding people while letting dangerous felons go unpunished. Nothing you gun banners support has anything to do with the welfare of the country. Rather, they are schemes designed to advance the creeping crud of collectivism while helping violent criminals with laws that disarm their victims

 

Funny how you have to resort to trash-talking to attempt to make your point. Discredits your argument immediately. Guns in the hands of criminals is not good. Without background checks, gun show guns easily get in the hands of criminals. It's very simple, but you like to complicate it with all the rhetoric. Dettelbach is the expert - you are NOT.

 

You don't think calling people " gun nuts " is trash talking?

Because I read the post that you had just quoted his reply in and you were calling people gun nuts when he quoted you.

 

Yes of course because I know if I theoretically wanted to attack people, I always go after the ones with guns first...lol

 

gun banners is an accurate term for anyone who wants to ban firearms. Many of the AR 15 prohibitionists pretend they aren't gun banners because they don't want to ban ALL guns (yet) or guns for the military or cops. Yet they call those who don't think kids ought to be supplied books at grade school libraries on the joys of anal sex or drag queen fashions 'book banners'. My term is accurate. "gun nuts" is better applied to those who are afraid of guns or pretend to be to advance a nefarious political scheme

 

guns still get in the hands of criminals-there are plenty of laws to prosecute them. I don't even think you believe that universal background checks will help but you have to keep pretending it will because the real goal is complete registration

 

Well you know how it is, if you're not a holophobe that thinks the government should take all of the guns, they just call you a gun nut.

 

Funny how you have to resort to trash-talking to attempt to make your point.

 

It's another case of a left-winger not liking the way pro gun advocates vote so they push gun bans to slake their hatred

 

That's a good reason to get rid of the gun show loophole. Once that is done, the next step can be taken to eliminate the illegal acquisition. It's called eliminating the possiblilities one-by-one. Better than the NRA method of do-nothing.

 

You will never get rid of private sales.
You will never get all private sellers to run a background check on their buyer.
And you will rarely, if ever, successfully prosecute anyone who fails to do so.

By.... making them more illegal?

 

why do you keep claiming there is a gun show loophole. it's a blatant lie. what laws are different at gun shows than any other place in the state where a gun show may be held. How many gun shows have you attended. MOST OF THEM have PHOTOGRAPHIC surveillance and tons of cops-many of whom are working for dealers. Let's see, you have a felony record and you are going to go to a place crawling with cops, some of whom might know you to buy a gun. Good thinking there. Gun banners never ever think about the real world when they spew their nonsense.