Arizona Grand Jury Indicts Donald Trump Allies, 11 Fake Electors

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  1. The Ant

    The Ant Well-Known Member

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    What if your aunty had a beard…would she be your uncle…??

    They didn’t….60 times…!

    (where’s that dead horse emoji…?)

    Oh yeah…
    :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:
     
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  2. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I still call bullshit. Mango wanted violence and the riot to occur. If he was truly concerned, he would have cancelled the event.
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    How did the riot help him to attempt his last challenge when in fact it STOPPED it. The protest at he Capitol was like any other protest there, to influence Congress to act is it was calling for.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    But Trump was still trying wasn't he and the last gasp effort was during the Congressional voting wasn't it and those votes were taken BEFORE that.
     
  5. yardmeat

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    I see you still haven't read the Eastman memo. Big surprise.
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    Of course it didn't help and was never a part of any strategy you're making things up.Do the members of Congress calling for halting aid to Israel bear responsibilty for the anti-semitic protest on the campuses?
     
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    It won't be long before the justice system has no credibility anywhere. Bad thing.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Yep and the other theories they were attempting. You should trying reading them all. Lack of rebuttal noted again
     
  9. yardmeat

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    I've covered them all. They blatantly violate the Constitution and the ECA. You should try reading those. "Maybe no more Constitution" isn't a "theory." Lack of reading noted again.

    Why do you defend the idea that some states' EC votes just shouldn't count at all?
     
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    Well clearly because it helps justify the Orange Stain's attempt to overturn the election that he lost.

    According to MAGA:
    EC votes that are in dispute , no matter how unsupported the challenge, shouldn't be counted until all challenges and lawsuits are resolved, but ONLY
    when there is a Republican majority in the House so when the vote gets kicked there, a just outcome will occur.
     
  11. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I agree it wasn't necessarily part of his strategy, but he does bear responsibility. Not total, but a lot. That's not making things up,. that's common sense.
    Please stick to the topic under discussion.
     
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    60 times for "lack of standing"..... not evidence presented... that has been established many times over.. like maybe 60 times over...
     
  13. The Ant

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    So, 60 times, they couldn’t even meet the most basic, preliminary test required to bring a case to court…!!

    Please, keep repeating it…!
     
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    Name just one other time the existing POTUS who was voted out of office, invited his supporters to DC and encouraged them to march to the capitol and fight like hell.

    I'll wait.
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    Why?
     
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    Not true

    PA case:A judge threw out the case, saying Trump's lawyers presented the court "with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpaid in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence."

    PA Case: The campaign sued in yet another federal case to stop Philadelphia County from counting votes without Republicans present. The judge dismissed the case after Trump's lawyers said Republican election watchers were, in fact, present.

    NV Case: The Trump campaign filed a different lawsuit in Carson City District Court alleging multiple irregularities that the campaign claimed, without providing specific evidence, would be enough to overturn the election results in Nevada and flip the state to Trump. It failed.

    GA Case: A judge in Chatham County denied the Trump campaign's request to toss out 53 ballots that a GOP poll watcher said arrived after polls closed at 7 p.m. on November 3. The Washington Post reported that the poll watcher presented no evidence in court that the ballots came in late and that county officials testified that they were received in time.

    MI Case: A poll challenger named Sarah Stoddard and a group called the Election Integrity Fund filed a lawsuit seeking to stop the certification of election results in Detroit, claiming that absentee ballots were improperly reviewed. Judge Timothy Kenny denied the motion on the grounds that there was no proof that election oversight protocol hadn't been followed.

    I can keep listing the cases but there really is no point. Your claim that they were dismissed over lack of standing is just false.
     
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    Not necessarily his plan? It SPOILED HIS PLAN.


    The topic is beung responsible for your words. YOU made that the topic. Ddge noted.

    Do the members of Congress calling for halting aid to Israel bear responsibilty for the anti-semitic protest on the campuses?
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    somewhat, but the real spoiler was Pence.
    I repeat, please stick to the topic under discussion.
     
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    It could not even get to Pence because of the riot that occurred, it SPOILED his plan it was the LAST thing he needed to happened which of course blows the entire "insurrection" Big Lie.
     
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    No, it doesn't. He incited them. He bears responsibility. The attack corresponds to the definition of an insurrection. It was adjudicated as an insurrection by a number of judges, the fact not contested by any of the higher courts, including the supreme court.

    But, it wasn't the 'spoiler', Pence was the spoiler. The insurrection was a 'temporary disrupter' but the joint session got it back together and finished the job, and Pence didn't do as Trump requested, though he could have.
     
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    This thread is about the fake elector conspiracy, not the riot. But you've proven repeatedly that you are unwilling to discuss the fake elector topic.
     
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    And your side keeps throwing in Jan 6 as part of the" fake electors scheme" you claim. And you've repeatedly shown that when bested you have to make up your attacks on others.
     
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    Then who has been charged and convicted of insurrection? When was Trump charged with inciting a riot and insurrection? Yes the riot stopped the vote count and the chance to challenge them it was NOT in any Trumo plans it was not what he needed.
     
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    I'm talking about the fake elector scheme. Not Jan 6. Read. Sentences aren't hard.
     
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    Where is the evidence that widespread voter fraud to benefit Biden occurred? Even if the courts dismissed cases due to lack of standing the evidence, if it was so blatant, should be out there for all to see.
    And all the states that were "in question" did have recounts and check for voter fraud, many run by Republicans, and found nothing significant.
    If it was so known, can you show me the cases of obvious voter fraud from the 2020 election? Because I've looked and can't find any.
     

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