Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    @Kal'Stang
    So, if I go to the USA, legally buy and possess a handgun, upon my return to Australia (where it is illegal to do that) I should be prosecuted under Australian Law for that which I did (the gun) in the USA?
     
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    Provide your proof. Because like it or not, Texas, and other states, have laws in effect that show otherwise.
     
  3. Bush Lawyer

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    Nope, my argument is that if the State forces the delivery of a child onto a woman, then the State is to blame, has responsibility for that child.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    I have no clue what is or isn't allowed in Australia. What is or isn't with in the power of the Australian government. As such I cannot answer your question.
     
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    Cite those Laws.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Nope. As already previously stated, one of the main priorities for a government is to preserve life as much as possible.
     
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    Why only 25%?
    Each parent should contribute 50% to raising a child.
     
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    You can answer my question on the basis that I have just told you that it is illegal for me, here in Australia, to waltz into a shop, buy and possess a hand gun.
     
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    I'll refer you to the link in the OP.
     
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    That alone is not enough information. Just because its illegal for you to own a gun in Australia, doesn't mean that Australia has a law that would make it illegal for you to purchase a gun in a country where it is legal. Do they? I've already shown that the US has laws that makes it illegal to do things in countries where those things are legal. Does your country have something similar? And does it apply to guns?

    Like I said, I know nothing of your laws or procedures or what its government is allowed, or not allowed to do.
     
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    Ah....a civil claim. An argument between the parental rights/dominance of the sperm and the egg. I am not talking about that/referring to that in my hypothetical.
     
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    I disagree.
    Marriage is irrelevant when it comes to procreation.
    If you help to create a child, you should have equal say and equal responsibility to raise it.
    If we are going to pass laws to force people to be liable, it should apply to both people who created the child.
    If you don’t want the responsibility for raising a child, get your tubes tied or get a vasectomy and enjoy your life.
     
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    Of course it doesn't. Show me the Statute Law of any US State which makes it illegal for a woman residing in an anti abortion State to get an abortion in a State where getting an abortion is legal.
     
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    If you read the article it is not just a civil claim. An investigation will be held to see if she committed an illegal act.
     
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    Between the sperm and the egg, it is without doubt, a civil action. The word 'civil' is ubiquitous in the OP.

    Show me the Statute Law of any US State which makes it illegal for a woman residing in an anti abortion State to get an abortion in a State where getting an abortion is legal.
     
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    no proof needed, a State can only arrest people for crimes committed in their State
     
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    Yeah but has that been challenged in court yet?
     
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    It is blame while you are insisting that sex also = consent. Does that “consent” include risk to health and life?
     
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    I agree with the equal responsibility but in situations such as the OP where there is a strong probability that what is now referred to as “Coercive Control”** is occurring that along should abrogate equal say.

    ** coercive control - we used to call it being a controlling dick!
     
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    It is already illegal to smoke pot in TX.
     
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    Tell us what it was like in the womb ?

    If you cant, then you weren't a “person”.
     
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    TBH, their really is no “consistent conservative principle” in the current Republican Party, their only “principal” is to support what ever the Orange-a-tan tells them.

    The current iteration of the Republican Party is about a man, not a party, not principals, not ideology, JUST THE MAN.

    A man who has a very storied history of screwing over the working class by refusing to pay them.

    A man who inherited $700 million dollars is a somehow “self made billionaire”

    A man who stole money fro his charity, is a “good Christian”

    A man who has had a very long history in the city of New York of screwing over workers at his properties, is somehow “a man of working class”

    A man who bankrupted a casino chain, is “a great business man”

    A man who has screwed over almost every business partner he has ever had, is somehow “a great friend”

    A man who’s every decision in life was about him first, and other last, is somehow a “man of the people”

    And Im I the only one that has noted that every time there is a scandal, or a problem, or Trump says something stupid, it INSTANTLY gets projected on Biden ? It’s just amazing to watch this part!!!!
     
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    :rolleyes:

    Tell was what it was like 1 day after being born. If you can't, then you weren't a "person".
     
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    If I consent to have sex with someone I know has HIV does that mean I consent to getting HIV? Even if I take all precautions possible otherwise to prevent it?

    Answer: Yes.

    That also answers your secondary question.
     
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    I wish California would abort the flow of illegals.
    But on point, since they were not married, he has no standing. She can live with it. I think most women accept the regret.
    We had one at ~ age 22 in our extended family go down the guilt tube into addiction and death before 30.
     
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