Stephen Hawkins Says Idea of Afterlife a "fairy tale"

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  1. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    I don't think about one person, like you or me, I think about all of mankind. My comments are not personal towards you or anyone.

    It doesn't matter if there is evidence??????
     
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    I don't care about where we came from so much as where we go from here. I don't mean the afterlife, just the the technology and advancement(or destruction)of the human race. I'm not saying our origins isn't interesting just that it doesn't really matter to me.
     
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    That is something that you must decided for yourself, if you choose to believe that God or Heaven exist.
     
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    From my limited knowledge on the subject, I understand that most religions believe that you will get into Heaven if you do right by your fellow man and God. I believe that most people are inherently good at heart and will do what is necessary to help and do good by their peers.
     
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    To each his own, live and let live....
     
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    Actually, most religions don't even believe in heaven.
     
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    Are you always this nit picky, or does being an ass come natural? Most religions I know about.....is that better?
     
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    You were wrong. Saying you were wrong is not picking nits.
     
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    Whatever......you knew what I meant, or are you not the intellectual that you portray?
     
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    And I also know that you were wrong. You are gracious to admit that your error is based on ignorance, but that does not suddenly turn a falsehood into a truth.
     
  12. Yosh Shmenge

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    What? You mean the Christian view of heaven, I hope. Every religion I am aware of believes in some form of a hereafter. Where do you get your views?
     
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    I was the one who stated that the after life is BS, many many years ago. Why are we giving him credit for that?

    “Religious people are very easy to manipulate. As evident by how effective media propaganda has them excited. No form of religion can govern a effective form of civilized society“ (Clint Torres, 2011). You can quote me on that.
     
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    What attack, he was speaking what he believed, he is not allowed to do so.
     
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    I don't think he is obligated to support Serlak2007's claim.
     
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    Then you, like CC, are not aware of any but a fraction of the religions that exist or their beliefs.
     
  17. Yosh Shmenge

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    Well you said that most religions do not believe in an afterlife, so perhaps you could name the few that do. Or perhaps you just indulged in hyperbolic baloney, in order to
    overwhelm your posting rival.
     
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    I did not. I said that most do not believe in Heaven.
     
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    On what basis do you think that religious philosophical beliefs are less moral than atheistic religious beliefs?
     
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    Actually the afterlife is an accepted belief of most religions, from buddhists (nirvana - when they become one with the universe, or realize their oneness, etc. after the reincarnations process is completed) to jews to christians to muslims, to just about every religions out there.
     
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    And I asked for clarification before and got none from you.
    Are you claiming that most religions don't believe in a Christian/Jewish/Islamic vision of heaven and hell?
    Not surprising (if so), since most religions are not Abrahamic in nature or origin.
    I wonder what the point of your obvious comment was then?
     
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    Then I guess you just did.

    You can take Jewish out of that mix. The "heaven and hell" of which you speak is characteristic of the latter two, but not Judaism.

    Exactly.

    My point was that most religions are not Abrahamic in nature.
     
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    Funny how the broadcast news propaganda gets people excited.

    Now ask your doctor if the drug they push during the commercial is right for you.

    Side effects may include, kidney, liver, or heart failure.

    Don't take the drug if you have a propensity to get worked up over BS news media paid for by the drug company.

    “Religious people are very easy to manipulate. As evident by how effective media propaganda has them excited. No form of religion can ever govern a effective form of modern civilized society“ (Clint Torres 2011).. You can quote me on that.
     
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    Lets see if I can do the necessary debating double-speak to baffle this one.

    One man, arguably the smartest in the world, claims that the afterlife is a fairytale and since this man has a certain standing, he's correct and those 300 religions are, effectively, wrong.
    Setting aside the fact that he flew in the face of thousands of years of research and philosophical thought, it is sort of ludicrous to think that because one man says something, the rest of the world should believe it, genius or not. Many people have stood up against him on this fact and what he says about the universe not needing a "god" to be created. (look up the youtube video Steven Hawking Larry King debate, should be with a Jesuit priest of the Catholic Church and an Imam of the Islam Church).
    The left-handed insult to religions is insignificant too. Considering the fact that if people start following this trail of thought, Steven Hawking will have, essentially, started his own religion.
     
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    I don't fear religion. But many religions have scared people to death!
     
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