Why I will be ignoring all "atheists" on this forum.

News Flash for ya:
Millions of people DO suffer all over the world.

Is that what your God wants for the human race?

Why exactly does your God allow such suffering?

 

LOL That's quite possibly the craziest piece of logic I've ever heard.

 

I think it's a mistake to think that atheism is a position which people should simply be cavalier about, or not be passionate about.

Atheism is a distinctly minority position, particularly in the U.S. To avow atheism, in spite of widespread disapproval and distrust of it, prompts people holding it to defend it vigorously.

There of course is a religious dimension to atheism. It involves a certain set of convictions about human nature and about our ultimate destiny. Those sorts of convictions are always going to be deeply held, particularly by people who take truth seriously.

There are many good reasons to say that monotheism is misguided and false. Central to those reasons, is a moral critique of the object of monotheistic worship.

The reasons why religion is such a ubiquitous and powerful aspect of the human experience, are twofold. Humans seem to have a yearning to commune with something transcending their day-to-day experience, and they are seized by the need to organize their relationships by rank. Politics, in other words - who can make who do what - is a central and defining aspect of the human experience.

These two fundamental elements of the human experience - spirituality, and politics - seem inextricably bound up with one another in human religions. They are especially tightly bound in the case of monotheism.

Monotheism is a political theory on a cosmological scale: it proposes an ultimate, absolute monarchy. The problem is, for people in our current age, monarchy is just not all that in fashion. In fact, many people recoil at the idea.

Atheists look to monotheism, and this is what they see: in the guise of offering spiritual sustenance, monotheism presents everyone with the message that they are the natural inferiors of a powerful master; from whom one cannot be liberated, even in death. The avowed servants of this master will attempt to persuade everyone who will listen to obey - persuade either with incentives or with threats.

When this is done, and the message is itself logically untenable, people eventually are going to reject the message.

It all comes down to politics. And why shouldn't people confront those who oppose their political beliefs? Especially when those beliefs have a cosmological significance. Isn't this what the early Christians did, after all? Do you think they deferred respectfully to the sensibilities of pagans?

 

There is no possibility of being wrong when it comes to christianity and the bible. The book of genesis simply cannot stand up to scientific scrutiny. It was written in a time when man had no answers for the universe, other than supernatural nonsense. As we gained true knowledge of the Universe and its secretes, the bible became less and less able to stand up to scientific scrutiny. Now, if the very first book in the bible is bunk, there is simply no reason not to take the rest as fiction. NONE.

Your god and your bible are simply ancient superstitions that are more harmful to society than beneficial at this point in humanity.

Once again, your 'charitable missions' nonsense is just a scare tactic..as I stated before lefties and righties now how to play that card pretty well: one in the same.

 

That's been my conclusion as well. My OP makes the point that a true atheist would be dispassionate on the subject of God, but when you discuss God with these people, the anger comes out unmistakably. I understand they are crying for help, but I can no longer have that justify entertaining their incessant assaults in religious forums. I know other people of faith feel likewise.

 

There's no such thing.

I could be wrong, but many decades of reading through the alleged word of that twisted maniac tells me otherwise. So far, there's no evidence the bible is true, however there's plenty of evidence that it's a load of crap.

lol talk about a strawman, that's friggin huge, and don't get me started on the millions of people dead at the hands of churches.

You fail to think fourth dimensionally. Without the burden and lies of churches, people would actually try to solve problems for themselves. For example, prayer. Theists seem to think, "Rather than actually spending time, energy, and resources helping people with some genuine problems, make yourself feel good by mumbling to yourself about your hopes and wishes of help coming to those people via magic, and you don't have to waste your day helping anyone do anything."

"Two hands working are more effective than a thousand hands clasped in prayer."

Stop with the retarded strawmen, your fellow sheep have built way too many of them. Or do you want every theist to molest children? (It's that easy.)

 

It's an issue that's been discussed on this forum for a long time... with no resolution. I've been able to maintain a very peaceful little thread about the Cowboy Church... but it took mod intervention to stop the trolls.

Maybe we should start more specific threads in the religious section. Easier to weed out the "THERE IS NO GOD" crowd when you have a definite topic.

Explore a book of the Bible or talk about the wonderful outreach programs churches offer?

It's worth considering.

You know what else I notice? More new atheist threads pop up on Sunday than any other day of the week. Interesting, huh?

 

Then why are so many atheists lying, hate-filled bigots? And why is it that the overwhelming majority of murders in the last century were carried out by avowedly Godless regimes?

 

That's theist logic for ya.

 

Sorry, you get no credibility for throwing away your vote. And your schizophrenia piece was nothing more than a personal attack. A juvenile one at that.

 

I've never been on an atheist forum (I assume they exist), but I wonder if Christians plague those sites in force like atheists do on religious sites?

 

I dunno, why are so many theists lying, hate-filled bigots?

And why is it that the overwhelming majority of divorces and prisoners are religious?

 

Why? It's an aspect that effects society as a whole. We aren't dogs to be put in a corner, we a voice as well. If you can't accept opposing points of view, the problem is with you, not your opposition.

 

Not really. Theists exhibit the same signs of mental instability that we attribute to mentally challenged patients.

 

You can climb down off your pulpit now, I get it. You don't believe in God and anybody who does is an idiot. Same as saying you're smarter than 88% of the world's population. Pardon me if I'm a little skeptical.

 

Silly thing to say. But not unexpected.

 

You might want to stop projecting so much. You made a stupid statement and I commented on it. If you don't like it, ignore me. At the very least don't put words in my mouth. You believe a magic creature with three distinct personalities/parts sent one of his parts, while still being himself, to die to his creation to make himself forgive his creation for the nature he created them with..."pardon me if I'm a little skeptical", and not ignorant enough to believe it.

 

I think that about everything theists say The difference is, mine is verifiable, yours is not.

 

LOL, I'm sure they exist. It's like those atheist billboards. They crave some form of congregation... a place to share common beliefs (or in their case, disbeliefs). But they just won't break down and admit they really need a church to show up at every Sunday morning.

I figure if they ever break down and organize, their first hymn will be, "Yes, we shall gather at the billboard."

 

You're going to have to back this claim.

 

Disillusions are treatable. If only the US had universal health care the people on this thread could be cured.

 

Any professing theist who fits that description is at enmity with God. Of course bigoted atheists will see religious people as bigots whether they are not.

Umm...because the overwhelming majority of people are?

 

I can't ignore you... you're such a perfect example of what I was saying earlier about evangelical atheists. Preach on, brother. I'm listening.

 

The ultimate .... I love that wonderful sense of humor.

 

have you seen any pink unicorns lately?