Why I will be ignoring all "atheists" on this forum.

It's actually embarassing to the atheists and proponents of immoral behaviors that Darwin himself was an avid foe of homosexuality, calling it an evolutionary dead-end. His opposition is far from what you would call dispassionate too. He had some choice words to describe this lifestyle.

 

Still obsessed with...errr...ignoring Atheists I see. You might want to try a patch or something.

 

He was actually quite religious too, I hear. I choose not to embrace every single thing about a person. It's a bit strange to, don't you think?

 

Saint, isn't this thread the exact type of thread you're complaining against?

 

You might want to try accepting other people's choices. You know, that inate tolerance that atheists preach - but rarely seem capable of displaying?

 

You might want to pass this advice on to our friend here. A 28 page rant against Atheists hardly qualifies as tolerance.

 

Oh, is that what is happening? 28 pages of one poster ranting against atheists?

Because there are quite a few atheists, like yourself, who are in arms about someone insulting your faith ....

Unfortunately, each and every one of you is dead silent when atheists dump on religion.

There are numerous other threads you can move to, and in this case, you may want to offer up some kind of explanation or rebuttal to a person's desire to ignore you.

However, when someone has been habitually abused by a community and decides to avoid it? There is enough blame to go around without the nominal super victim capes that make the rejection of atheism a personal affront.

Again, the global opinion of atheism continues to slide down the old trust scale - and it is incumbant upon atheists to correct that slide, not anyone else.

My advice? Playing victim will not fix it. It will require atheists to actually discipline and confront the most egregious violaters in their midst - like Christians do with the Westboro Baptist church. That is not happening, and in the mean time, those wh abuse in the name of atheism have come to define it.

THat is atheism's problem.

 

My point is that he's not ignoring Atheists. He posted an OP claiming to ignore Atheists then contributed to 28 pages of insults directed at them. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

 

Just pointing out that he has some pretty valid reasons to be upset with atheists. Just pointing out the avoidance of that fact by the atheists who chastize him for being pissed off - as if accepting abuse is the price of 'tolerance'.

Seriously Doug, you should try it. Try posting as a religious person and see how your fellow atheists treat you. Give it a shot. See what happens.

There are some good atheists out there, but there is no atheists who seems willing to pull in or discipline the worst of the bunch. As a former atheist, I made the very faulty assumption that simply sharing my faith would be accepted by nominally ike minded peers. Instead, I have been accused of everything from rape and murder to craven child molestation and genocide.

Suffice to say, such treatment has greatly soured my personal opinion of atheism. In the aggregate, in continues to sour the public perception of atheism as well.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/edgell/home/Strib Atheist Faith and Values.html

THread like this are warning. What atheists do with thoe warning is up to them, but I would strongly caution against simply sweeping it under the rug by claiming it is the fault solely of the critic's character flaws.

 

Who are the proponents of immoral behaviors? People like Ted Haggart, Glen Beck and Pat Robertson?

 

Nonsense. The charity of the christians isn't free, it comes with something in change. The conversion to his belief.

And the religion is the oldest form to control and install an authority over the people and remove their freedom.

If you like to be in a mental prison, enjoy the prison. Others enjoy the freedom, phisical and mental freedom.

 

Don't underestimate the value of freedom while in mental servitude. It may seem greater than freedom from a perspective of mental emancipation.

 

Good for you. Here, add me as well if you haven't already.

It's kinda weird, though, there more atheists you ignore, the less you seem intent on ignoring atheism.

 

It's not weird if you think about it from a psychological standpoint; he's terrified.

 

Wouldn't be much of a debate is no one chimed with an opposing view.

You also just contradicted yourself. You stated before that atheism is a religion but in this post admitted the truth that it is not.

 

No, it does not.

Maybe you should check out the Bible and what it says about charity? Perhaps? Does it say that we perform acts of charity ONLY when someone converts to our faith? Or does it pretty clearly say to administer to those in need regardless of their faith?

THis would be atheists once again introducing conspiracy to something as innocent as charity.

Really, why make up things to attack them? Its your own illusion you are chasing.

 

Indeed, it might be that. As Jiyuu-Freedom recently turned the attention to, the tought that one's own faith can become absent can be a gruesome one. I guess it's a reminder that religions are arbitrary.

 

A religion does not own an issue merely by speaking about it. A religious matter is one created by and relating only to that religion. The 10 commandments is a religious matter because it is created by and relates only to Judaism and religions based on Judaism. Homosexuality is not a religious matter, because it occurs outside of the religious purview anyway. If there were no religion, there would still be homosexuality.

An archaic view, to say the least. Unprotected sex and a lack of contraceptives leads to the consequences you're speaking about; the sex itself has no consequences when the tools available are used to mitigate them.

As far as I know, homosexuals have never based their desire for equal rights on a religious basis. How on earth does two gay people having sex and wanting marriage rights from the government infringe on your right to practice your religion? It doesn't. At all. There is literally no grounds for religious people to claim that homosexuals are forcing themselves into other people's religion. There is no serious political movement in the US to require religions to spiritually recognize gay marriage--the only effect would be legal recognition by the government for secular purposes.

 

What does this have to do with anything? Unlike the theists, atheists tend not to be drawn into personality cults where we feel we have to take every word and opinion of someone as the gospel truth. The virtue and strength of the scientific method is that the scientist's own personal opinions do not necessarily discredit his work. If he abides by the method, it will be peer reviewed and tested by others. Despicable people can still engage in good scientific practices, and so can virtuous people.

Darwin could have believed that the moon was made of goat cheese and that space was filled with luminiferous aether and it still wouldn't discredit the theory of evolution by natural selection.

 

Gee kilgram. It seems that you got so involved in the second question that was posed to you by SMW, that you completely overlooked her first question. How about answering her first question as well.

 

How do you know who is an atheist and who is not?

Do they type a certain way or something?

I guess the biggest give away is the devil horns and the fact that we stay alive by sucking the blood of Christian children.

 

The easiest way is through their admission of such.

 

It's no secret that that's how missionaries worked.

"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land." D Tutu

 

When the missionaries showed up the troops and the gunboats were usually not far behind

 

Saintmicheal, I'm an atheist. Please be sure to put me on ignore. I'm saying this because I'm semi-new here and I don't want you to overlook me.