Is the Purpose of Taxes to Raise Revenue or Punish the Rich?

Can't we all agree on that no one has the right answer because we all have different philosophy on taxes/government/life. Most of us don't envy the Rich, but most of us don't want to pay for all the burdens of Government. To the degree of equality, is up to you.

I just want my (future) children to grow up the way I choose them to be. Not a pure unregulated world or a strict regulated world. There needs to be a balance between taxes and who has the burden.

 

And right now the middle class carries 80% of the burden.

 

I'm not saying the middle class shouldn't pay taxes but they shouldn't carry majority of the burden. We need to fix it so that everyone pays something I believe.

Edited "But they shouldn't carry majority of the burden."

 

How plutocratic of you. Let the rich continue to make over inflated profits at the expense of everyone else. Your opinion is sickening.

 

How is it plutocratic of me to make sure the Rich pay their fair share and loosen the burden on the Middle Class?

 

Hmm..Perhaps I mistook your post. I thought you were saying you believe the middle class should carry the biggest burden.

 

When I meant "I'm not saying the middle class shouldn't pay taxes but they shouldn't carry majority of the burden. We need to fix it so that everyone pays something I believe."

I edited the should to shouldn't. I kinda typed too fast lol. I'm saying let the middle class grow once again, hence lower taxes on the Middle Class and thrive. Not the Super/Uber Rich.

 

Empty net, yet fishing was good. Very leftist.

 

Tired boring cliches. Pass.

 

It is entirely disningenous to argue that all those present in a socio-economic system should contribute to its upkeep where the distribution of its benefits create gross inequality.

 

Sooo... ya got nothin'.

 

The interesting fact is that Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry and most of the other Democrats in Congress are filthy rich themselves!!!

Of course Congressmen don't have to pay for anything out of their own pocket. Lobbyists pay for Congressmen to stay in the fanciest hotels, eat the most elegant gourmet meals, and enjoy the services of the most expensive whores.

John Kerry, who never worked a day in his life but married into money, probably doesn't know anything about business other than where the best whorehouses in Washington are.

 

This is pure hogwash. I am what you might consider a "liberal" to some extent, but the reason why we want to have taxes, ones that in fact are higher for "rich" people, is because look at our history!

The 2000's have been economically TERRIBLE. Sure, there are now record gains in income being made...FOR THE RICH, but this is AT THE EXPENSE of MOST of the population. And this of course coincided with tax cuts for the rich, that have been going on under BOTH Obama AND Bush.

Basically, the common sense result occurs when you tax the rich less, which is that wealth disparity increases dramatically and the average working class citizen is less prosperous.

And don't say that the "rich" supposedly "earned" all of it. I don't consider having a large company in your name and capitalizing on others' labor to be "earning" anything.

 

At some point that company was worth nothing. Someone turned nothing into a valuable process. He effected that transformation by his own labor or employing others like a craftsman employs a chisel. That person certainly earned every penny of profit the company he built produces and he has every right to dispose of his property as he see's fit. Including selling it to another, gifting it to his children, or moving it overseas. That you don't respect his efforts or his will does not surprise me anymore than hearing an arm chair quarterback make disrespectful remarks about an NFL athletes performance.

Seize what Bill had and give it to Bob and it will dramatically increase what Bob has? Amazing insight.

 

I didn't say I didn't respect it, or that they'd deserve nothing. What I said is that capitalizing on the labor and desperation of others is NOTHING BUT PURE SELFISHNESS and it should be taxed.

Notice I did NOT say that businesses should be taxed.

If Bill got it by capitalizing on others' labor, and Bob was a hard working dedicated person with high potential and didn't violate anyone else and was making next to nothing as the result of employers exploiting him, then I'd have zero problem with this.

 

It is simplistic and naive to believe that someone can do this all by themselves, with no help from anyone. That they alone deserve all the reward exhibits extreme selfishness and an anti-social psychosis, possibly megalomania.

 

So what you're saying is that the poor are best treated as tools of the wealthy.

Considering that what Bill has came originally from Bob's labor, that's pretty logical.

 

Sounds very respectful... good of you to decide what portion of something a man builds he deserves to keep.

Apparently Bob is desperately seeking someone to put his labor to a useful end. You seem to feel giving this man employment is selfish and some kind of violation. The good news is unemployment is rising, less people are choosing to exploit or violate Bob every day. Pretty soon, Bob will be entirely free of folks who may want to hire him!

A moron breaking rocks with his head works hard and can be quite dedicated. He may even have high potential. Admire these traits all you want but it is unreasonable for you to seize property from Bill to reward that moron or Bob because of your admiration.

 

Yes, it is quite simplistic of you. A little naive too. Good of you to see that. Instead one should consider what each person offers, negotiate with them, and pay them the agreed upon amount.

The difference between all those contributions, all costs in fact, and the revenue collected is then what the owner deserves.

 

Not at all. In fact the more people in this world who take ownership of their life the better for all of us. Sadly though, so many refuse to do it. So many instead want only to sell our hours. To reduce our selves to functionaries who must be told how to be productive, who -- without instruction and employment -- offer nothing. It's good that these folks can be put to some use, but I'd much rather they look around, find a need in society and take ownership of meeting it. Perhaps they might even be able to put some tool of a neighbor to use as well.

It didn't come from his labor. If it did, Bob would be competing with Bill not working for him.

 

No it is because many of the democrats are rich and set up laws with their own loop holes while taxing the middle class.

The tax the rich crap is BS Rockefeller and Kerry and Reid and Pelosi and Boxer are all rich and will not let that happen. It is more lies to get votes

 

The tax cuts are now owned by Obama and the rich democrats in congress love it

 

You mean like the democrats already have 50% of the country at to buy votes

 

Show proof

 

Republicans secretly run the world in a secret cabal with surviving Nazis.