Is everyone here on the forum under 25?

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  1. armor99

    armor99 New Member

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    I am probably going to get flammed over this one, but I am sure others have been thinking it too. :) So is everyone here in the forum under 25 and a college student? I mean no offense to anyone.... but I really am getting tired of being lectured (incorrectly I might add) by children that have not lived or learned anything of the world yet. I came here to the forum to have conversations and thought exchanges with other adults... and not children. I just feel like my time is being wasted.... Perhaps others feel the same way.... maybe not.... I mean really.... on many occasions here, I have had 20 somethings lecture me on how taxes should work, and then I later learn that they are still living at home, no job, no responsibilities, and their folks are still paying their way through life. Not too much that I can learn from such a conversation....
     
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    I'm 47. And I know who the 25 and under college students are....just by the posts. I was one once. And I'm here to tell you....they know everything and only life will change that. You have no control.
     
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    Nope. I wish I was under 25.
     
  4. ZSwierczynski

    ZSwierczynski New Member

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    I'm 20 but I don't know much about "Taxes" yet. But I'm paying my own way for school and my car. Work two jobs and go to school full time. :(
     
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    and like earlier said, I too wish I was under 25 BUT, knowing what I know now. But now, I think that those under 25 have got a lot of work to do, cleaning up from centuries of abuse for greed or power or both.

    It does appear that a certain naiveness does prevail here but I do not think it is age dependant.
     
  6. signcutter

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    Im 43 years old.. been around long to enough to have seen real blood, death, starvation and cruelty for a lifetime. Its easy to see people who get all their experience from a book and have never had skin in the game.

    I've been a soldier in wartime.. a Firefighter, A tool and die maker, and an LEO. Tried to find peace of mind in many proffessions. Almost had it as a Tool and die guy.. but that line of work was sold off to Mexico and then China took it from them.

    It's been a hard road..trying to maintain my principles while providing a reasonably stable and safe environment for my family... Its kinda hard to be lectured on life by 23 year old neocon/ Neoliberal pukes with no idea of the difference between half assed idealism and real life conviction.
     
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    Not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing wrong with what your doing. Your the kind of kid that gets my respect.

    Just remember this and along with your work ethic you should allrite.. Those that remain ignorant and dont make up thier own mind have thier mind made up for them.
     
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    The XL Well-Known Member

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    22 year old here, full time student with a part time job. I don't think it's fair to generalize all young adults like that, there are plenty of intelligent and responsible 18-25 year old adults.
     
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    Your right.. but I'll bet if a threw a rock into a gaggle of 23to 25 year olds odds are that I would hit a spoonfed idiot.

    Stupidity and ignorance arent confined to the young.. its just a little bit more prevalent.
     
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    I'm 30, which is a good age to be because I am over my youthful inexperience and not yet turned irrationally bitter by the years.
     
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    Irrationality is a highly subjective state of being to I.D. What may seem irrational behavior to you may be behavior brought on by experience ... like a guy you see off in the distance running full tilt flapping his arms because he is being attacked by bees.
     
  12. The XL

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    I wouldn't be fixated on arbitrary ages. A dumb and immature 17 year old is likely going to be a dumb 18 year old, same for 20 to 21, or 25 to 26, etc. I think about half the population doesn't change or grow much after 18 to be honest. I've seen some absolutely immature and childish 40+ year olds. I've also seen some very mature and intelligent young people, even some under 18. Everyone grows at their own pace, if at all.
     
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    Ignorance I will agree, stupidity, NO!! The IQs of my generation are higher than those of our parents generation. Our problem is not lack of intelligence, it is lack of drive and a lack of work ethic. We are intelligent, but we were too spoiled, so too many of us feel that everything should just be given to us, without actually putting the work in to earn it. There are of course many exceptions to that, but I think it is true in general in my experience. So as I said, ignorance I agree about, as ignorance is the result of a lack of curiosity and a lack of learning, NOT a lack of intellectual capacity, I don't agree we are stupid(or at least NOT more stupid than previous generations). So there are many people in my generation who are ignorant, but they are capable of much more!!

    PS. I don't think those people tend to hang out at political forums though. There are some I imagine, but I think young people who spend their time at political forums tend to be more curious and informed than others their own age!!


    PPS. The next generation is even worse than my own!! I come from the last generation in which video games were not fun enough to take up too much of my time. I went outside, played sports, fell down, and was generally active. My nephew who is in junior high now, plays video games all day(even in the summer)!! And he seems to be pretty popular as well. He has plenty of friends who join him in playing video games all day(but instead of getting together they talk to each other online through headsets)!! So we are about to see a generation even less driven and more ignorant than my own. Hopefully maturity will sort us all out, but who knows.
     
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    I agree with that.. A person who is inexperienced and sheltered and remains that way will not change much in even 20 years. In my line of work I have met alot of young war vets who have the minds of old men.
     
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    I currently have a cousin living with his folks still in NYC. He did not get into some sort of financial trouble and have to move back in.... rather he never left, and the guy is pushing 40!. And then I tell my mom there is something pretty messed up about that... and she trys to explain to me that there is nothing really wrong with that. How is it possible to combat irrationality like that? Some people say I am a bit of a harda$$ about it, but in my world, until you live on your own, and you are supporting yourself 100% financially, then you are not really an adult yet. In my opinion, there is a certain amount of emotional maturity that just cannot happen any other way.

    A person can be intelligent, hold down a job, even be raising a family. But untill you live with the fear in the back of your mind everyday of "OMG I can loose everything I have if I screw up this job badly enough, and no one is comming to bail me out!" Then you are not really a man or a woman.... you are still a child. I think the difference is working without that safety net... and knowing that the net is not there should you fall. It does something to you... it changes you. The first risk anyone really takes in life is leaving home...
     
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    I think that pretty much explains it. The fact that a 40 year old is still with his parents shows you that different people grow at different paces, if at all. I think it's okay to be with your parents for financial reasons if you're 18-29, but anything 30 or over, and it's probably your fault, unless you have some sort of physical or mental illness.
     
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    36 is better. You can have sex with a girl half your age and still be legal.

    44, Captain of industry.
    OK, seriously I invested in obama paraphernalia during the last presidential election and made a huge chunk of change. And not that bull (*)(*)(*)(*) change obama was selling.
     
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    :omg:

    That is a pretty great reason though, lol.
     
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    Some people are so incompetent with the opposite sex, that they legitimately have no chance of ever finding a partner. In that situation they can decide between living alone, living with a friend/friends, or living with their parents. I personally see nothing wrong with that decision, it is a matter of personal preference, NOT the sign of a person who is inferior. I would personally rather live with my parents than be lonely, but that is just me. That preference is not objectively good or bad, it is simply a subjective judgment based on what is best for that individual.
     
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    I am under 25 and Supreme Allied Commander of this forum....you were saying?
     
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    Why does the site keep locking up?
    HAH!
     
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    Do you still have your blanky as well?
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At 49, I have learned that there is more to life than the rat race. I've learned that how you live is far more important than how long you live.

    I would rather live half as long in freedom as apposed to being rule by a king or government.

    IMO, the definition of freedom is far different from a 20 year old to 40 year old.
     
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    Isn't the average IQ 100, regardless of cohort?
     
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    Same. 22, student, job.
    Hoping to get a full time job.
     

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