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  1. Margot

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    I wish revolutions were more like tea parties, but they aren't.

    Isn't it interesting that Morocco and Jordan are planning to join the GCC.... I hope in six months Libya will also.


     
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    Watch Jordan.....perhaps you are a little premature...time will tell!

    Libya will still be in a state of chaos.....American chaos! And NATO bombs!

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    I doubt that.. the World bank has recognized the NTC.. Turkey is helping with the transition and the various oil companies will soon be back in production.

    Perhaps you didn't know that for 19 years, Libya had a very enlightened Constitution.. and I expect the Libyans will use that as their model.

    It gave full civil rights to all regardless of ethnicity or religion.
     
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    It seems Gadaffi was stopped in the nick of time from finding a delivery system for his chemical weapons.
     
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    ..from being able to deliver chemical weapons...?

    Why does that not quite ring true, and why does that sound like a bit of propaganda?

    I think that Gaddafi the mad dog was probably quite capable of deploying chemical weapons at some earlier point, not now, of course.


    "Islamists have played an important part in the uprising against Col Muammar Gaddafi, sparking concern about what role they will play in the new Libya, writes Middle East analyst Omar Ashour.

    Abdul Hakim Belhaj spearheaded the attack on Col Gaddafi's Bab al-Aziziya compound, but the commander of the newly-formed Tripoli Military Council is raising red flags in the West.

    Mr Belhaj - known in the jihadi world as Abu Abdullah al-Sadiq - is the former commander of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a jihadist organisation with historical links to al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and the al-Jihad organisation in Egypt" BBC

    This is EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT,

    AN UP RISING FOR DEMOCRACY, THIS IS NOT,

    ....THIS IS A SET-UP FOR AN ISLAMIST TAKEOVER !
     
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    "TRIPOLI, Libya — In the emerging post-Qaddafi Libya, the most influential politician may well be Ali Sallabi, who has no formal title but commands broad respect as an Islamic scholar and populist orator who was instrumental in leading the mass uprising.

    Moises Saman for The New York Times
    Ali Sallabi, who led a group said to be tied to Al Qaeda. More Photos »
    The most powerful military leader is now Abdel Hakim Belhaj, the former leader of a hard-line group once believed to be aligned with Al Qaeda.

    The growing influence of Islamists in Libya raises hard questions about the ultimate character of the government and society that will rise in place of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s " NY Times
     
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    becoming radicalized by the Islamists...

    They went after the Copts,

    Then the Israeli Embassy,

    They are killing blacks because they are black, accusing them of all being mercenaries, ignoring the fact that many of them are migrant workers...?


    Doesn't sound like the foundations for any Democracy I have ever heard of...?

    I fear the worst will happen, another repressive "Taliban like" Government..
    which will be even worse than Gaddafi was... by far,

    especially for women!
     
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    Erdogan visited Libya and tousands of people welcomed Erdogan with Turkey flags and huge Erdogan posters,

    Erdogan again advised a secular system for new Libya such as he made in Egypt. He also warned Libians to keep their patrol and mines and to protect their countries by refering Sarkozy after his one day before wisit.

    Sarkozy and Cameron made a suprise visit 1 day before Erdogan to be first leaders who wisited Libya after Gaddafi however they couldn't collect even 1000 people at the square. Erdogan faced warmer and huger sympathy with tousands.

    My point: I am Turkish and i don't beleive Erdogan is a good personality or a perfect leader. But if we compare him with European condors such as Sarkozy he is a pure leader. But Middle Eastern people is changed even goverments are still not woke up, people woke up and they see what Europe do to solve Palestine problem and how Europe thinks for Muslims...
     
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    In Egypt NOT Libya.. the Copts convert to Islam so they can get divorces and then convert back.. Its a real mess.

     
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    Mmmm....... Margot.....bawling your argument...does nothing to prove your point which doesn't really exist anyway's!!

    Enlightened...was that when your enlightened OIL appointed "King" Irdis looked after millions of Libyans who just happened to be starving????

    Perhap's you might believe the bull and drivel.....obviously I don't!

    But you have a nice day...and just remember to thank the President of Venezuela for giving the poor in America heating oil! Pity the greed motive is so strong and American's cannot look after there own!
    Wonder if Gadaffi also looked after them?


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    Libya made HUGE progress between 1951 and 1969..

    You don't know anything about Venezuela either.. VZ has been pumping oil for over 80 years and was run by US approved ex military guys who had NO plan to reinvest oil revenues.

    Do you want Libya to grow its economy.. or do you just want everyone to get a welfare check?
     
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    Mmmmm......Margot....I'm intrigued..."anything about Venezuela either"...I'm glad you've noticed...you not know or understand "anything about Venezuela either" but you missed Libya as well...but may I be so bold as to point out.....I do!
    Its quite simple really....as simple cost benefit analysis....the cost of the American paid mercenaries and NATO 3000 plus bombing missions to steal the oil against the Gadddaffi regime and thousand of Libyans murdered!

    Why does Libya need to grow its output? It produces enough for they're needs. They have no need or consideration of your Conglomerates profits margins or they're need to grow.

    Suffice it to say...the oil was there in the ground to produce when necessary, to look after the future generations of Libyans! Not your degenerates!

    But you have a nice day....look at the birds......they fly!

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    There are NO American troops on the ground in Libya.

    If the Libyans don't want those oil revenues... they can cancel the contracts.
     
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    You my dear....live in cloud cuckoo land!

    I now totally understand you total lack of understanding....you haven't even looked at any of the links I've posted to you!

    Mmm...you never mentioned if you get paid for your submissions?????

    American special forces have been on the ground since the inception of the Libyan campaign! Both American and UK! which was more than six months prior to the start in February!
    As well as American bought Mercenaries! Just wait....time will prove me correct!

    Having the American military on your national soil...its like having syphilis.....once you have them you cannot get rid of the disease!
    Just as any Iraqi...and the sofa agreement...or the referendum for them being allowed on there national soil!

    Not a chance.....AAaaah American democracy at work!

    American military equates to a parasite on your back!

    Leeching your very essence of the nations life forces from your there soul!

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    Libya can buy the assets and develop their oil industry themselves.. and they will still SELL oil.

     
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    As I said previously......you live in cloud cuckoo!

    Its amazing how some individuals can deceive themselves!

    The last time a puppet was forced on the Libyans the only person to blossom was king Idris! The rest starved! This time.....there will be no difference!

    Oooh.....and its not going to be as easy as they think! Americans are hated, Idris is hated.....and when everyone sees the layout of the American puppets they too will be detested.......they're time will be limited also!

    But its the start of the march of the Fascist Neo-con's....WW3 is just around the corner.....and your nation son's and daughters will be the fodder for the AIPAC and IMF!
    You cannot work....you cannot get medical aid...your loosing your houses..........you cannot get social security, but you can give trillions of dollars to the Zionist who pick your senators and allow you to elect to your government!
    For god sake waken up and smell the coffee!

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    Idris wasn't hated.. He united the tribes and ushered in a period of prosperity.

    You forget that Idris was the Emir of Tripoli forever before he was king.

    I am curious .. are you a socialist?
     
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    Mmmm.....is this more bigotry???

    I am a humanist.....and being a social animal......probably!

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=23548

    Here is a link.....do try to make an informed decision for once in your life!

    Look at it! Its far better for one than being led by the nose!

    Regards
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    Chossudovsky claims that the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is actually an operational weapon of mass destruction, with the power to alter the weather, disrupt regional electrical power systems, and modify the Earth's magnetic field, as well as potentially trigger earthquakes and affect people's health..

    He's a quack..

    He promoted all sorts of ridiculous conspiracy theories about 9-111 as well.


     
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    Obviously you didn't read the full link.....I'll try again

    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23605

    There are links to confirm the synopsis!

    Do try to open your mind from ignorance and bigotry!

    Pray tell....when did and other nation apart from the Zionist american has any nation committed genocide in the manner in which American military now does with impunity!

    Regards
    Highlander

    Regards
    Highlander
     
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    He's a Russian Jew and a crackpot who has YOU fooled. Why do you gravitate to such ridiculous sources?
     

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