Woman decapitated in Mexico for web posting

Get off the soapbox. Decriminalization is no answer at all. The concept reinforces and condones bad choices. That's really the last thing we need. Now, if the taxpayer didn't have to fund the losers of society, we might have something to talk about, but our money goes to these people in one form or another, the last thing we need to do is justify their bad behaviors.

 

I found lots of articles relating to deaths caused by alcohol:

http://www.necn.com/09/22/11/Drunk-...ng_newengland.html?blockID=565866&feedID=4206

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/09/22/two-years-jail-for-killer-drunk-driver

http://www.novanewsnow.com/News/201...Acadia-student-dies-after-alcohol-poisoning/1

http://www.doaneline.com/news/article_b68a2d50-df4d-11e0-97fc-001a4bcf6878.html

http://www.walb.com/story/15364001/alcohol-poisioning-puts-teen-in-coma

Strangely, I haven't been able to find anything in these articles about litigation against Bacardi, Budweiser, etc. Must have been omitted-- not important enough or something.

 

To be fair there has been litigation against bar owners when their employees keep serving customers after they are clearly intoxicated, but not sure the success rates on those.

 

I was talking about prescription drugs, I am aware of the cases against alcohol companies and disagree with the whole premise. Drinking and drug use are personal choices, and they have potential consequences. I despise the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lawsuits we see everyday. People need to take some personal responsibility for their actions.

 

Well we certainly agree on that.

 

And, clearly, that has not been such a problem that alcohol cartels, such as the mafia, have remained the main distributors.

 

Woudn't be happening if:

1. Drugs were Legal
2. Obama wasn't arming the drug cartels
3. Obama secured the borders
4. CIA wasn't involved in drug trafficking / didn't exist period.
5. Congress didn't let Big Pharma lobby to keep drugs like marijuana illegal because they can't patent it

All violations of the Constitution. Also, if I grew a marijuana plant in the woods somewhere, and smoked it, would that make me partly responsible for the drug cartels in Mexico? Blaming people using illegal drugs is scapegoatting, shifting blame from the government and cartels to the Individual.

Collectivist propaganda.

 

There is a big difference, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, alcohol is socially accepted, METH is not. That is what starts to draw the lines, society does not want any part in condoning something like METH, legalization or decriminalization are precisely that, condoning it. Its a perception thing.

 

Acid doesn't do any physical damage to your body.

 

LOL.... where did you ever get your over active imagination? Yeah, the Mexican drug cartel is going to patrol the streets and stop every pot dealer in the US.

LOL... the cops can't even do that.

 

^ this right here

 

Please show me where in the Constitution it specifies that the federal government has the power to outlaw certain drugs of its choice.

 

It would stop killings within our borders. Many non-violent drug offenders would go free. Less taxpayer money being wasted on both prisoners and the failed war on drugs.

 

Ahha.. dismiss my points .. not Important.. your real problem is you think that I am on a soapbox.. well played Sir.. I was indeed on a soapbox and I am now getting off of it. Certianly not a man to be trifled with...

So your stance is that we should continue to support failed, expensive, big government policy because you want to legislate away personal behaviors.. wether or not they have any effect on you or anybody else besides the person doing the behavior, instead of reforming the system in a much less expensive and much less intrusive system that would garner at the very worst .. the same number of drug abusers....

Classic Neo-con bible thumping bullshiat

 

Reality is that hard drug users like methheads, crackheads, and junkies commit crimes to get their next fix. Decriminalization won't fix that. We can look at other realities, like the fact needle users and gays still dominate the growth of AIDS in this country, no lets ignore that... Lets just pretend legalization or decriminalization will solve those problems completely.

 

LOL... lets see here.. you know that alcohol kills more people than all other drugs combined. Is addictive... is legal and marketed as a recreational pharmacuetical.... But you are supportive making all drugs you dont approve of illegal....


YET you can say this crap ?

 

^Summed up perfectly. This is exactly where I stand on the issue as well.

 

Right now.. its illegal and they are unaccounted for.. as you have evidenced in your own post.. a complete failure in controlling the abuse of drugs.. and the consequences of that abuse...

I guess I should just side with you and Ignore the fact that the incredibly destructive and failed multibillion dollar a year war on drugs is an utter failure.. but hey we are throwing money at the problem with no real results..except to line the pockets of the corporations that line thier pockets by servicing failed policy. I guess it produces jobs???

 

Are you saying something here? All I can see is babble... What part of alcohol has a cultural aspect that meth, crack, or heroin lack do you not understand? Please inform us all of these things...

 

Yeah, melts in your head, not in your hand huh? On a related subject..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drug-related_deaths

 

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Thats because your kinda narrow minded and deluded.. but I will explain anyway my denseheaded buddy.. i was reffering to the text in your post that I bolded out.. ok?

I on the other hand do not take into consideration.. "cultural acceptence" when it comes to deciding WHICH drugs will be legal and which will illegal. I dont give a happy shiat that alcohol is the drug of choice and accepted in abuse by euro-culture

Alcohol kills more than any other drug.. more tham all combined.. everyday... every year... every decade this including the cartel wars all over the world.. Its abuse doesnt offend your moronic lemming psyche... so its ok in your book... no matter what the statistics prove about its addictiveness and lethality.

Yet you seem to be perfectly fine with criminalizing the possesion of substances you dont partake of... even though they do not cause nearly the damage in life or cost... To put it plain and simple your a typical hypocrite

 

Total fail on the first part of the quote, I'm not surprised...

Every other drug is not legal, I'm not sure how that comparison is valid... Perhaps the prohibition on those other substances is working then, unless you have evidence of the contrary...

Of course, I don't partake, why should I care if they are legal or not? Please give me a reason to care of such thing, I'm interested to find out how I could have been such a bastard all these years. I mean seeing junkies, crackheads, and methheads having such wonderful existences has failed to sway me, I'm sure you have an argument that will.

 

The Mob had morals. Moonshiners had morals. These drug cartels have none. They target women and children. Like I told the other guy, booze and drugs are two different ball games in two different ball parks.

 

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whatever ...

Yes.. drug abuse today.. lets take for example ... alcohol.. it was also prohibited.. it created a very destructive black market.. became an expensive embarrasment to attempt to keep from the abusers that chose to abuse it... Is it illegal still? Well todays prohibition of drugs is a mirror image of that whole fiasco.

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I dont drink.. why should I have to put with all the drunk driving deaths i have to work? Why should alcohol be legal when clearly not all americans drink or approve of it... I mean seeing all those homeless drunks on the side of the road.. the abused wives and broken bodies has failed to sway me... The difference between me and you is that i dont believe that I have a right to tell you what you can partake of as long as you dont hurt anybody else when you do it.

You havent been such a bastard all these years.. you have been and still are an a**hol& though... not a nice one either.. just a selfrightous hypocritical all hairy and poopy one

 

Yeah: government regulations are keeping the two games from being played on the same field. Darn bureaucracy!