Non Violent Offenders In Alabama Town Told "Go To Jail Or To Church" As Sentence

These people have earned a prison sentence and the judge is giving the option of getting out of what they deserve if they go to church for a year.

I'm not sure what the basis of a lawsuit would be. Everyone has the option of going to jail.

 

When did I say that? I didn't. I have not deviated from my point, there is a choice, that choice in no way violates the Constitution. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

 

In case you hadn't noticed, this is an American based and owned forum.

 

Finally, someone else who gets it, these liberals are freaking brain dead.

 

I guess that's because there is no freedom FROM religion in the stupid constitution?

 

yes, a choice in the same way being stabbed in the arm with a dagger or being forced to drink an 8 ounce slushy in 5 seconds (massive brain freeze inc) is a choice...

 

Does that automatically give foreigners with no stake a say in our internal affairs? The same foreigners that whine incessantly if the US even hints at interfering in their meager affairs???? Maybe it would be best to stay out of our internal issues.

 

We are talking about criminals, would you prefer they get the choice of CareBear they get with their hug or My Little Pony?

 

Feel free to post that section of the Constitution. I'll wait.

 

It is either that or an amendment that says people have the freedom to practice religion, but there is no mention of being free from it.

 

How about some actual text from the actual document. Not just foreign assumptions, is that too much to ask?

 

We get it. You don't like the Constitution.

The Constitution is very specific and concise.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This choice does not "establish a religion", but I am sure that a liberal freakshow judge out there can bastardize our Constitution, its intent, and crush an option that will not only ease the strain on the justice system and the taxpayer, but also offer some wrong directed people to a better path.

So... let's just forget this option/choice and let them all rot in jail.

 

You're an American. You know what it says.

 

You are a foreigner, trying to tell me what it says and failing. Next time I'm not going to be so kind of your ignorance and interference in our internal affairs.

 

I really don't see a problem with this. If the option of church, instead of jail time, wasn't offered, would these lawbreaker have no option except jail time? So, they are catching a break & the libs are complaining about it? The libs would just as soon let them spend the time in jail? Hmm, with friends like that...

 

Seize the moment if it's available.

 

A big part of the problem, aside from the fact that this is highly inappropriate and down right unconstitutional, is that the only people being punished in this scenario are people who are not religious. You've basically passed law saying that so long as you're a religious person who attends church regularly you will not be punished for violating the law. Does that not sound pretty crazy to you? It's like "goto jail or watch (insert TV show) once a week." Hey so long is it promotes religion through government right?

 

I swear, there are some seriously immature people on this forum. If I was "forced" (even though these lawbreakers would be given an option) to attend a religious service other than what my beliefs are, I would attend, sit there like an adult & keep my mouth shut. Whatever they have to say doesn't affect what I believe in, so just do the time & get through it. Don't do the crime next time. I'm sure that the church option would come with a "you don't have to participate, but you better act right" condition, as well as it should. Some people just need to grow up.

 

I'd say deciding to play videogames rather than listen to a bunch of meaningless drivel you don't care about is quiet a grown up decision. I would also think the religious would be against using their religion as a form of punishment because it's demeaning to their beliefs, well I'd think it was anyway. I certainly wouldn't want learning my beliefs to be seen as a form of punishment.

 

As was stated by others, where's unconstitutionality of this? It's an option, that's all. As far as Christians not being punished in this, my guess is that since they're facing jail time, they're much Christians to begin with & the option may or may not rehab them either. Ok, let's just do away with option & send them all to jail, I'm sure that that'll rehab 'em up real well!?

 

Does this in anyway establish a religion or prohibit the practice of religion? Where exactly is the Constitutional challenge here? I see a bunch of people screaming unconstitutional, but I see no evidence brought forth as to how or why...

 

Yes send them to jail. If they committed a crime that's jail worthy then they need to goto jail. Holy (*)(*)(*)(*) you right wingers are almost always the first to say this.

 

You don't see how a choice between religion and jail is unconstitutional? You don't see how that's establishing religion, the government telling you goto church or goto jail? I mean I'd think that's just cut and dry. I guess you'd be fine with the government giving you the choice between living in government housing with your guns or being able to live where you want because technically you still have the right to bear arms.

Even past all of that I'd think the fact that the law is an insult to religion in general (using it as punishment) and that it establishes that only the non-religions would really be punished as their choice is to goto jail or attend services for a religion they don't care about doesn't really phase you. I have to be honest, I'm really not that surprised that the 'tough on crime right' thinks it's just fine for crimes to go unpunished for regular church goers.

 

There is nothing to see. There is a choice, the state is not establishing nor prohibiting the practice of religion; so where is the challenge?

 

I think if it were me I would go to church. If I was an atheist, I would bring a book to read during the service and pay no attention to what's going on. That's a much better fate than sitting in a jail cell.

Really is religion such a horrible thing that you couldn't even sit through a service and read a book?