Do Homosexuals Think They Can Get a Free Pass from God?

Set yourself free. You don't need that burden.

 

Let's try to keep things literal here.

 

Acts 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

Jesus Christ contiues to do and teach through His people who have His Spirit. Thus the Christian, when he declares the truths of the Bible, is speaking for God.

If a homosexual wants to be saved, He can be. Turn to Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour believing He is the Son of the Living God. Thus he will be born again and no longer a homosexual.

You don't understand 'forgiveness'. Nor the unpardonable sin. Nor the payment for sin by Christ.

I don't need to hope, I know.

Quantrill

 

Right two christians disagree over meaning bible passages. Several denominational versions, many translations. Not to mention the apocrypha and dead sea scrolls. Tell me again how words in the bible equal god spake them?

 

How? God's Spirit inspired men to write what He wanted written. Thus the Bible is the Word of God.

Quantrill

 

You have never identified the scripture verse that has led you to your belief that one can never be a former Christian. Please do so, and then we can discuss what it means, as you yourself admitted there could be multiple interpretations and you didn't know which way to go with it. I am very interested in seeing what has led you to this conclusion.

 

So, the verses you always like to use don't prove your position? You no longer have confidence in them?

Surely you based your suppossed 'former christianity' on more than one verse. Just what did you base it on?

The teaching of the Bible has led me to this conclusion. There is not just one verse. The teaching of the Bible teaches that the believer is secure in their salvation forever.

Quantrill

 

Why the defensiveness?
Just post the verses that have led you to this conclusion so we can discuss them.
Or did you look at them and realize they don't quite measure up?
You say the believer is secure in their salvation forever. Ok. That doesn't speak to someone who has lost their belief. The non-believer. You aren't making a case that someone couldn't become a "former" Christian, only that believers are secure despite their behaviors, which I am sure is a great comfort to you.

 

in that case why did he inspire numerous people to write several versions of the same book in a way that two christians on this forum can get entirely different meanings.

 

There is no single one verse, it is the teaching of Scripture. You haven't produced anything to say otherwise. Scared?

It does speak to someone who says they lost their belief. It was either never there, or God still counts it as salvation.

The same case in the security of the believer also states there are no former Christians.

The Christians faith is not theirs to lose. It is a gift from God. Eph.2:8 " For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"

Indeed it is a great comfort to me as it should be to all Christians.

 

You are making my case for me.
If one is saved by faith, does it not follow that when the faith is gone, so is the salvation?
If there are multiple verses that have led you to believe what you do, list them. Defend your position, and show us where you have come up with this doctrine. It sounds like an important issue for those of us that have left. Help us understand instead of getting angry.

 

I already showed you Luke 8:12.
Do you want more?
Mark 16:16
John 3:18
John 3:36

 

Well, as most, you are missing the point when dealing with different religions.

When you speak of God are you referring to the Jews God, Muslim's God or Christian's God (among the most followers - because there are more God's)?

So... Which God are you referring too?

 

Different religions have nothing to do with it, because no religious indoctrination whatsoever is required to see that homosexuality is wrong.

There are only two: the Father of Christ and the father of lies. Only the latter will let unrepentant homosexuals into his 'heaven".

 

And there we go...

The Father of Christ - you better believe there will be homosexuals in Heaven... along with murderers, theives, and a gambit of criminals. It is not up your puny existence to decide who or what will be in Heaven! Do you realize this?

Also, if I am correct - all sin is the same and NO PERSON ALIVE per the Bible is without it. Thus, if you feel no homosexuals will be in Heaven, then all people on this planet will not be entering either since homosexuality is a sin and whatever your sin is - is equivalent to homosexuality per the Bible!!

 

I better? Pray tell, what ignominous fate awaits me for refusing to believe this *******med lie?

To be sure, there won't be any sinners in Heaven, because those who were sinners on Earth must be purged of sin before they enter Heaven, which the Atonement was engineered to accomplish; and if that includes no one but Christ, then Christianity is a lie. So what's your point?

 

Yes...

The Bible states you BETTER per Jesus... Did you miss reading those scriptures?

So there WILL be homosexuals... Your lose definition of atonement just means that when I die - I'm forgiven and thus get a FREE PASS into Heaven...

Now, realize - it's you who are judging this. I'm just pointing out the wrongs in what you're posting...