Will Israel still exist in 2048 ?

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  1. Art_Allm

    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    BS!

    David was a small insignificant warlord that had a small town under his control.
    They could not find anything that can support the fairy tales, invented by Jews in Babylon.
     
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    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Yes, the term was used to refer to Arabs, they were called Semites by all scholars.

    But Jews claimed that they are Semites, too.

    Disraeli even called his compatriots "Mosaic Arabs".

    Today we know that most Zionists hate Arabs, so it is idiotic to call them "Semites" and the native Semites in Palestine who fight against these descendants of Khazars - "Anti-Semites".
     
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    It is totally appropriate to call nazis anti-semites though. :-D
     
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    Quite a bit of sexism there, and more.
    Perhaps jews should not drive....:fart:
     
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    Do not mix up Zionist owned media with high quality scientific literature.

    Anti-Semitic means hostile to Semites.

    If Jews are not Semites, then the meaning of the term "Anti-Semitism" will be eventually changed (speak corrected), and Zionist power in media cannot stop this process.

    Many misnomers have been corrected, the term Anti-Semitism will be corrected, it will mean ONLY hostility against Semites, be they Christians, Muslims or even Jews.

    BTW, Mizrahim Jews are Semites, but Ashkenazim (90% of today Jews) are descendants of Slavs and Khazars that hate all Semites, even the Semitic Jews (Mizrahim).

    White Ashkenazim try to reduce the Semitic population of Palestine, be they Jews, Christians or Muslims.
     
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    What do you mean with Nazis?

    National-Zionists?

    :D

    Yes, they are Anti-Semites, because they hate the native Semites of Palestine.

    What to National-Socialists - did they really hate Arabs or did they really believe that Jews are Semites?
     
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    No I mean jew haters - you recall, the nazis of our country? The reaL thing and not all the wannabes 70 years too late. Hard to forget who coined that term isn't it?:)
     
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    "Our" country?

    Leben Sie wirklich in Deutschland?

    Können Sie wirklich Deutsch sprechen?

    Hassten die National-Sozialisten wirklich alle Semiten?

    Nur wenn das der Fall war ist es gerechtfertigt die National-Sozialisten als "Anti-Semiten" zu bezeichnen.

    Können Sie mir folgen?
     
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    Because most Jews are not Semites, and many Zionist Jews of European descent hate real Semites, be they Christians, Muslims or Jews (see my post about racism in Israel).
     
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    still farting ? :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
     
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    Liebe Sie nicht müde, Rasseln aus dem Galway Asche. Ich rede mit dir in Deutsch, so weit wie der Übersetzer.
    Sie haben eine deutsche Wurst aus dem Russischen oder Deutschen sind Sie root..:-D
     
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    Yep I remember it being reported and duscussed on anoter forum.

    Along with inherited diseases Tay Sachs , Gauchers disease + Blooms syndrome

    "Bloom's syndrome is inherited in an autosomal recessive fashion. Both parents must be carriers in order for a child to be affected. The carrier frequency in individuals of Eastern European Jewish (Ashkenazi Jewish) ancestry is about 1/100. If both parents are carriers, there is a one in four, or 25%, chance with each pregnancy for an affected child. Genetic counseling and genetic testing is recommended for families who may be carriers of Bloom's syndrome. For families in which carrier status is known, prenatal testing is available using cytogenetic or molecular methods. Molecular DNA testing for the mutation that is common in the Ashkenazi Jewish population is also available.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_syndrome


    The disease is caused by a recessive mutation in a gene located on chromosome 1 and affects both males and females. About 1 in 100 people in the United States are carriers of the most common type of Gaucher disease, while the carrier rate among Ashkenazi Jews is 8.9%

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease


    ............
     
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    Moon claims that it

    Ever since Marr coined the term, it has meant anti jew.
     
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    Revealing. I bet you believe that with the same conviction that you believe the day is light while the night is dark.

     
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    Stormfront revisted.

    I bet you can goosestep with the best of them.

    There isn't any archeological support for jews in Israel just like there isn't any real evidence of the holocaust. Such blatant denial of voluminous historical evidence is nothing more than unmitigated stupidity and ignorance vomited up by anti-semites (jew haters).
     
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    As an Eastern European Jew, I hope not.

    Israel has been nothing, but a plague on our society.
     
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    Firstly, Marr did not ' coin ' it- as I've already demonstrated several times. Do you really believe that 1880 came earlier than 1860 in the calendar to prove your lost point ?
    Secondly, the term only related to ' jews only ' by those who wanted it to relate to ' jews only '. No doubt many of those were jews themselves. That's not what the term was intended to describe though and so its usage in that respect is a misnomer. However, its incorrect usage is widespread and generally accepted. That doesn't make the term fit your argument though- it just means that language is only as informative as the way in which it is expressed. Unfortunately, from your strained viewpoint, the term ' Semite ' is universally acknowledged to pertain to far more groups of people than to jews exclusively. Thus the associated term ' anti-Semitic ' is , logically, applicable to far more groups of people than to jews exclusively. This fact is compounded by documented proof of the origins of the term- which I have provided- and reveals to anybody who might be interested that today's usage of the term is incorrect. Can it be corrected ? Semites are working on it. Please get out of the way of logic and evidence. Sectarian implications are primitive and divisive.
     
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    I had a question; I wasn't tyring to make any point whatsoever, and yet you still don't answer it. If you perceive some fictional point I was making from asking you a question, then my assessment of how you respond on the forum stands. Regardless, my question goes unanswered, which kinda answers it...
     
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    That'll be game, set and match. Although it's doubtful your lucidity will result in dixon's dignified surrender.
     
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    Israel’s brick wall … and beyond
    2 October 2011



    Modi’in, Israel:

    Whenever things take a turn for the worse in Israel, whenever I think this country has become too filled with fear and aggression to ever be ready to make peace, I remind myself: the way we’re going leads to a brick wall, and one day we’re going to run into it. After the pain subsides and we dust ourselves off, we will see that the brick wall is still standing. And at that point, we will have no choice but to change direction.

    The brick wall up the road is international isolation to the point of pariah status, together with a continual escalation in severe security threats and no reasonable hope of overcoming them by military force.

    Last week at the United Nations, Israel took another giant step toward that wall. By enforcing Israel’s opposition to the Palestinian statehood bid, the United States, appears to have dealt itself out of influence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and maybe even in the Middle East as a whole.

    Backed by the Republican Party, the American Christian right and the American Jewish right, the Israeli government bent US President Barack Obama too far this time. By blocking the Palestinian drive for statehood, he’s no good to Israel anymore. He’s lost the trust of even a moderate Palestinian leader like Mahmoud Abbas. So he can’t pressure the Palestinians to be more conciliatory, like he could before.

    It’s questionable whether he has much sway left with Egypt, Turkey and Jordan, either, whom Israel used to count on as bulwarks against its radical enemies.


    This is not good for Israel. And if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu thinks a Republican in the White House will come riding to his rescue, I doubt that any of the Republican candidates will be able to win any more friends or influence people for this Israeli government than Obama currently can – and I am, of course, understating matters.

    There’s a Hebrew saying, “Tafasta meruba, lo tafasta” which can be translated to mean: “If you get too greedy, you end up with nothing.” This, I think, is what happened to the Netanyahu government and its American allies – they not only wanted to temper Obama’s pressure on Israel, they insisted that he follow Netanyahu’s lead.

    And by doing so, the Israeli government, backed by its blind supporters in the United States, may end up with nothing – in the form of an America that can no longer defend it diplomatically. And for Israel, especially now, America is most emphatically the indispensable nation.

    Still, something tremendous is coming out of this experience: the Palestinians see for themselves that non-violence and diplomacy work. They have been cheering Abbas in New York and in Ramallah as he rides the wave of his triumphant speech – and reiterates that the Palestinian struggle will continue non-violently.

    This movement, led by Palestinians and joined by Israeli and foreign activists, began locally in protests against land expropriations in West Bank villages and settler “block-busting” in Jerusalem’s Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood. Abbas, however, has been calling for a national strategy of non-violence for the last decade, and it appears his way has captured his people’s imagination. This is what all seekers of peace in the Middle East have waited for, Palestinians and Israelis alike, and now it has come.

    What’s coming will not be easy for Israel, for America or for the Western powers seeking to bring Abbas and Netanyahu to the negotiating table. Without a commitment from Netanyahu to recognise the Palestinians’ right to the Occupied Territories alongside Israel’s right to its pre-1967 territory, together with a freeze on settlement building in the West Bank, Abbas will not negotiate. Meanwhile, Abbas will keep coming back to the Security Council with his demand for statehood, forcing Obama to defend Netanyahu’s position, which will only deepen the isolation and hostility for America and Israel in the Middle East.

    There is only one way to reverse direction – by ending the Israeli occupation and making way for an independent, sovereign Palestine. Sooner or later, I’m absolutely convinced it will happen. The status quo is not static. At some point, the cost of the Occupation to Israel and the United States will become too high to bear any longer. And then Palestinians – along with Israelis – will be free.



    * Larry Derfner is an American Israeli journalist and columnist who has written for many newspapers including US News & World Report, The Jerusalem Post, and The Sunday Times of London. He currently writes for +972 Magazine. This article was written for the Common Ground News Service (CGNews).
     
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    Delusional!!!!

     
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    Journalists do not coin any terms, dude.

    You have to be a scholar, to invent a new term, and a journalist can only use or misuse scientific terms.

    Marr used this term to refer to Jews, but he never claimed that Arabs were not Semites, and that Arabs that hate Zionists are Anti-Semites.

    Zionists perverted the original meaning of the term "Anti-Semitism", they kidnapped this term, and now they claim that Arabs are Anti-Semites, because they hate the descendants of non-Semitic Khazars who call themselves Zionists.
     
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    Whacko ! I've already demonstrated that the term originated in 1860. You can forget trying to flog the bollox that it originated with Marr in 1880. We've been here already- you lost.
     
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