How Our System Fails People We Should Most Help.

Only if it CAN be improved, which is impossible without some understanding of what good is, and which people who are prone to throwing money at problems usually do not have.

You will if the school is run by people who hold children in contempt, because just as the only way to improve a tumor is to reduce or eliminate it, the only way a school like that can be improved is by reducing - preferably to zero - its capacity to corrupt its charges.

 

That can be said for anything. If we don't share a common definition of good (goal) then it's impossible to improve.

The entire concept of improvement assumes that there is a goal.
Otherwise it's a moot point. No goal means no failure.

How many schools are truly run by people who have contempt for children and hope to decrease their success in the world?
More likely you have idealists, both good and bad (all assumnig they are helping kids, but some obviously wrong) and self interested people who don't care much but can be motivated via targeted incentives.

 

If you mean to say nothing, there is no need for such verbosity.

Plenty. Just look at how many demoralized dunderheads are being turned out with diplomas in hand, less bright than they were as kindergartners.

Surely I can be forgiven for refusing to defend assertions I haven't made.

Only fools think selfish teachers can turn out decent, self-reliant kids, regardless of the incentives.

 

You are assuming that teachers are the only important factor in a kid's success.
The incentives are not just for the teachers obviously.

And since when do selfish people not do good things with incentives? Isn't that the whole point of capitalism?

 

I'm not quite sure what you are getting at.

And why you have used " " around the word.

 

The less important a factor they are, the less important it is to pay them.

Not what we're talking about. A selfish man may build a perfectly good house, but if he teaches children the only way they'll turn out well is in spite of him.

Because I think they're mostly parasites who can't address the core issues in their patients, because they have the same issues themselves, and worse.

 

Counsellors are 'parasites'?

WTF?

Where do I even begin with this..

Sir, there are literally millions of people that have taken a lot of benefit from being counselled, for whatever problem it is that is dragging them down. No, it is not a cure all, and yes, you only get out of it what you are prepared to put in, but to call people who, btw, are often low paid or even volunteers 'parasites', I think is a shocker, to be honest.

I maintain that it is pref imo than creating a culture in which people are written a prescription for some tablet that often makes them feel worse.

And the modern consensus of opinion seems to agree with me, which is why there was a directive to move away from offering meds as a first option, and counselling and support as a first option instead. People don't just pluck that out of their ass, there is genuine concern for a society with an ever increasing dependency on medications, while better solutions are there, they don't cost anymore than punting meds to people. Maybe even less in the long run.

Know what stands in their way?

Pharmaceutical corps.

They are often no more ethical than a crack dealer.

They are the true parasites.

 

You said it, not me.

Prove it - and in doing so, do not neglect to account for all the families in disarray, all the self-destructive behavior, and the silent holocaust of all the people who end up rotting away in state run nursing homes because their children don't give a damm about them.

So what exactly DOES it cure?

 

Yes, but you did though.

' I think they're mostly parasites '

Now, on what grounds do you call people, even those that devote their time to help counsel and support others, as parasites?

Are you a rep for a pharmeutical company, as you seem determined to undermine the benefits of anything that doesn't involve people taking pills?

 

What does that have to do with the issue of depression?

 

No I did not.

Yes, that's what I said. It's not what you said I said.

Because for giving their clients help that does them no good, they get money or a fraudulent sense of self-worth or both.

Are you really not aware how many "therapists" act as pushers for those companies?

Depressed people are angry people, and angry people are not loveable, other than by parasitic enablers. This being the case, how else can they end up but alone and forgotten?

 

@Yguy.

Everything you just wrote is merely your opinion.

It appears to be based on little evidence, no peer reviewed evidence, nothing save for your own apparently narrow view.

However, others may think your observations were amazing.