The War on Drugs is a War on Innocent People

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  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I don't think drug addicts should be treated either. Nor do I think smokers should be treated for any illness caused by smoking, and obese people shouldn't be treated for illness caused by their condition.
     
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    Would that extend to homosexuals suffering from aids?
    Not intending to insult you - serious question.
     
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    do you KNOW i am violent? I think not.
    Enough of your opinions about racial pride and stay on topic please.
     
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    WOW someone MORE full on than me! Go Mak!
     
  5. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    People need to be responsible for themselves.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Because blacks didn't own white slaves. The inverse would be true if it were reversed.
     
  7. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So I take it that you also don't think people should be treated for AIDS, any STDs, skydivers with broken bones, half drowned swimmers, pedestrians struck by cars, and injured racecar drivers?
     
  8. kshRox01

    kshRox01 Banned

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    You certainly are angry.
    You admitted 'people like me' make you angry.
    If you look back through my posts on this thread you wont find any ad-hominem attacks against you.

    Anger seems to be one of the steps towards violence.
     
  9. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    If the person willingly engaged in unprotected sex and was aware of the risks, then no. No treatment for them. People should be smart enough to know that you must use protection. However, if protection fails, that is another thing entirely.
    I do not know how you would prove whether someone was using protection though.
     
  10. Frosty

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    These are not personal opinions of mine, rather they are facts. Drugs kill, they destroy families, they empower organized crime, and much more. And it is perfectly fine to impose something on another person if it is actually going to protect them. If you are so much against this why aren't you arguing about stop signs, seat belts, and speed limits? See, I can use your fail safe debate tactics too.

    Oh and here's a mind blower for you. If you dislike other people protect your life by imposing law and regulation on you then why aren't you fighting against your very rights and freedoms themselves?

    Checkmate.
     
  11. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Unprotected sex causes STI's. Anyone who has a one night stand and gets an STI can suffer for all I care. They caused it themselves.

    I don't apply it to everyone, but for a lot of people, they do things they know full well will harm them.
     
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    Thank you, fair and honest response.
     
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    Many of the issues you cite would be resolved by legalizing drugs.
     
  14. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, what about the other examples? An injured skydiver or swimmer? Leave them to die slowly? Perhaps ban skydiving and swimming?
     
  15. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    What about hospitals being overrun with overdoses? That creates more work and might push up healthcare costs.
     
  16. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    No. I am unsure about those two. I don't have a problem with either. I more have a problem with people purposefully injesting things that can cause them harm.
     
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    What about hospitals being overrun with heart attack patients? Should we ban buckets of fried chicken and Big Macs?
     
  18. Jack Ridley

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    If I were to use Keynesian logic here I'd say it creates jobs.

    But since I won't, I'll just say that in a free market supply will increase to meet demand.
     
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    I think legalizing drugs with treatment would decrease not increase these incidents.
     
  20. AbsoluteVoluntarist

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    Who gets to decide what is and isn't stupid? And who gets to decide what is and isn't "not stupid enough" to be illegal? It doesn't matter what you say is stupid or how much. It's not of your business.

    The government tells me to stick pointed objects filled with drugs into my arm every year when they try to goad me into a getting a flu shot. They're not "illegal" of course, precisely because the government says so. They're supposedly not mild altering, of course, unlike the government's schools.

    I could go on and on about the irrationality of the government's drug laws, and how some drugs are more restricted than others despite being less dangerous and how there's basically no rhyme or reason to anything the government says about it. For example, why is cannabis listed as a Schedule I illegal drug, despite being less dangerous, by number of deaths, than caffeine, a mind-altering drug that any seven-year-old child can purchase at the corner convenience store?

    But that's not the key issue. The key issue is to distinguish between what is and what is not your business. It's none of your business what anyone else puts in his arm. Why do you insist that it is?
     
  21. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    No. People have a choice as to what they eat. But if someone eats nothing but junk food and find themselves sick, why should I care?
     
  22. Makedde

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    Why? How would anyone know what the correct dosage was?
     
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    Do a search and you will find not ONLY did they OWN slaves but TRADED their kin into slavery in the first place.
    Now move on please. If you want to debate race pride i am all to happy but do it in the right thread and right area.
     
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    Their illegality empowers organized crime.
    No it is not.
    As a matter of fact I do.
    I don't follow.
     
  25. AbsoluteVoluntarist

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    You've said multiple times throughout this thread that heroin users should be shot. You're openly and expressly advocating violence. Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
     

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