Paul Ryan Tells Student He Should Work Three Jobs To Pay For College

Should other people have to turn over their days earnings to some going to college? Why does the person going to college have a claim on it?

"ThinkProgress spoke to Lowe afterward, who said, “If [the Pell grant program] was cut, I’d have to accept unsubsidized loans from banks. I don’t get it…We continue to not tax the people who are best off…He taxes small little things that affect the poor and middle class the most.”"

And the student lies in his statement.

 

Sounds to me like that $5,500 he gets has not taught him a thing eh?

 

Government pouring money into colleges is what is raising tuition. The more money government throws into the system to make it "affordable" the higher tuition will go.

If government decided everyone needed a glass of orange juice everyday so sent everyone $1 a day to help pay for it what do you think would happen to the price of orange juice? It would go up because more money is chasing the same amount of orange juice. Then when the price goes up government would say this is bad orange juice is no longer affordable so let's send everyone $1.50............guess what would happen to the price.

 

I know I have spoken out for a complete investigation into college funding, where the money goes, how much the professors make versus time spent in the class, money they make off requiring students to purchase their books, are they even available electronically which eliminates the publishing cost.

You are correct it is a major scam and needs to be totally reformed.

 

Pell Grants are ripoff of the American taxpayers.

I know that Obama has already nationalized the student loan program but that is the proper way to fund poor students.

If they are not willing to pay back the cost of their education then they don't deserve the money.

 

Agreed, and aside from working those 20 hours when is there time to study? University involves proportionally much more home study time than that spent attending lectures.

 

It is precisely government intervention and the forcing of universities to charge increasingly unaffordable tuition fees, rather than provide grants as they previously did, which is causing the recently announced drop in those applying for degree courses here in the UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/oct/24/university-applicants-drop-tuition-fees

 

I couldn't agree more. This is in fact one of the problems with many students today, and why they come out of college often times thinking that a degree make them smarter than any and all blue collar workers who have been living in the "real world" for many years before they begin to try to do so. Many end up back a college for another degree because they lack commonsense practices to make it in the world. I would rather listen to advice from someone who's been there done that, than from someone who's been sitting in a classroom for 8-12yrs.

Two of my kids are in college with jobs, one is in high school with a job, and the other just became eligable to work and will do so soon. It is very important to understand how to function in society on your own, just as much as it is important to have a good education.

 

My oldest son graduated a couple of years ago while serving full time in the Marines even during his overseas duty.

Why do these students have it so tough?

 

Who said students aren't willing to repay-aside from you? I believe the more salient point is them being able to find work in the field which they have studied for, and which will pay enough in order that they can pay back the loan and live a decent life at the same time.

 

One problem overlooked by libs are the greedy professors and public educators who are charging too much money for too little of their time actually teaching students.

 

Depends what he graduated in, how tough the course was, if he was given specific study-time. Personal anecdotes are something we can all provide, but they don't really add to the discussion. Thing is we are all individuals with individual issues.

 

You have evidence of these students who are getting an inadequate university education?

 

That's one of main complaints by liberals is that students owe so much money in student loans when they graduate.

Pell Grants sidestep that problem by making the money a gift from hardworking taxpayers who do not have college educations to pampered students who have never worked a day in their lives.

I see nothing wrong with asking the kids to be responsible for their own tuition either by working to pay for or taking out loans.

 

Yeah, I'd much rather get my blue-collar pal with his 'real-world' education to do my tax returns and perform surgery on me. Why use someone with a crap medical degree or a hack chartered accountant? Boy you really know how to make sense.

 

That's a tricky question.

Many students complain that they can't find jobs when they graduate with their art, music or sociology degree.

And of course they feel they paid too much.

The high cost can be explained by universities that do not manage their money very well and have to keep raising tuition for the students.

But students may want to consider becoming mechanical engineers or some other useful skill that is in demand rather than joining the ranks of art majors who can't find a job.

 

Call me silly, but i'm fairly sure i heard him say he held three jobs AFTER school in order to pay for his loans.

 

No it doesn't as you have made no such stipulation with the civilian students.

It was advanced avionics and no he was not given specific study time it was all on his own time and Gunny's don't have a lot of free time.

 

WTF are you talking about? Did I say anything about Doctors, lawyers, accountants? Stop with the crazy emotional outbursts. Pathetic.

 

"Ryan responded by saying that the program is “unsustainable,”


Progressives, what part of massive deficits don't you get? Aren't you watching what is going on in Greece and with the EU?

The welfare state needs constant economic growth and profit to keep the ponzie scheme going. Those days ended when Bill Clinton (D) gave China permanent normal trading status, and the Chinese/American business partners have taken advantage of it. Clinton did this after the brutal repression of students by the communist gov't in 1989.




The growth was destined to stop from that moment forward. The Tech bubble helped for a while, but that , Fannie/Freddie loans, and unchecked easy credit (credit cards) masked the fact that millions of American jobs went over seas. I've seen a steady drop in American blue collar standard of living, and a steady increase in bankruptcies.

Progressives in both parties have a dream of human progression into a one world gov't. A high American living standard is not realistically part of that plan. A rich elite is. IMHO- the only chance of regaining American economic health is via candidates who are nationalists. You won't find them in progressive politicians. You will find them amongst conservatives.

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Paying thousands of dollars to liberal professors to indoctrinate them to become liberals under the guise of degrees like Gender studies. At the end of the day, they graduate more stupid than they did when they first step foot onto campus with the only exception of being more in debt.

http://www.toptenz.net/to-10-useless-college-classes-degrees.php

Ultimately leading them into participating in rallies like the OWS which is more about pooping on cars than anything else all the while ranting about "capitalism" on their very expensive Iphone, Ipad, and apple notebooks which by the way were created by the very capitalist system they profuse to hate:

 

Ok look, I know that the left fails at basic economic understanding but common...

The cost will keep going up until people decide not to go because it is too expensive.

As long as students come up with the money, the price will go up.

Like wise, the quality of education will not go up until students stop going to college because the quality is too low to be worth the investment.


This isn't rocket science, and if you think the solution is to make college free for everyone. You're an idiot.

 

I work two jobs, picking up a third this week, and if you want to also count the National Guard as a job, it'll be 4 jobs I'll have while going to school full time. I'm also holding down a 3.1 GPA. It can be done, and I'll thank myself later for it.

I think kids should work during college, it teaches responsibility, time management, contributes to society, and gives them a greater sense of accomplishment.

 

I totally agree.

I wonder what the genius in the picture is qualified to do?

 

I'm sure there are also many graduates in the sciences, engineering and medicine who are having difficulties getting work. This isn't the exclusive province of the arts.