Black Americans become increasely divided over Barack Obama

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  1. Shangrila

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    Isn't the post office closed on MLK's BD, or do the white employees only deliver to white households?:sun:
     
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    Geeez that's so absurd,,is that what Condi and other blacks have done in the party? is that what they are there for?, you could have fooled me...By the way,,how many other Candidates do not stand a chance???,,,huh??? but you will of course pick on the black one,,,WOW, WHAT ARE THE ODDS????...LOL

    That's all you people see is color,,it stinks...Cant you see how phony the Democrats are?,,they tried to say the Tea party was racist and going to be violent,,they kept warning everybody,,so quick to divide. Unfortunately for you it all never happened,,,EXCEPT for the Liberals down at wall street,,,
    How come nobody warned us about them????
     
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    Absolutely. Cain is either capable, or he is not. Its all that should matter.
    Obama has shown by now that he isn't the cat's meow, and that is regardless of color as well.
     
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    Sure Banks as well,,but I am not sure I understand your point. The point I am making is that they celebrate the Holiday much more than others do, what the Government does has nothing to do with anything. If I had to compare it as far as interest goes it's probably comparable to Italians and Columbus day.
    Only we do not get violent about Columbus......:)
     
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    Point is, its a national holiday, not just one for blacks...and I see just as many blacks working as I see whites.
    I believe its a selective holiday, some celebrate, some don't.
     
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    Blacks (of today) who associate themselves with him merely due to his skin color are examples of people who subscribe to an infantile tribalism. He was not a black leader... his goals weren't exclusive to the black community (but every minority) nor did he shun other races or discourage racial mixing. His message was character, not color... and that doesn't deserve immediate dismissal because he's "claimed". Blacks of his era clung to MLK because he was a voice for minority concerns... most notably equality, and it just so happened that blacks bore the brunt of said inequality. His message would've been embraced by people of color had MLK been any other color... so would he be a "black leader" if he were white?

    If so, the nation wouldn't recognize it.
     
  7. James Cessna

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    Yes, Martin Luther King is indeed their leader. The Hispanics in this country have nothing to do with him. They had much rather celebrate "Cinci de Mayo" than Martin Luther King's birthday!
     
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    certainly Obama will not get as high a % of the Black vote as he did in 2008, and the total % of registered Black voters who vote in 2012 will be down from 2008. but that said, Obama will get the usual Democrat % of the Black vote 90% nationwide.

    Cain is an interesting development, and the Democrat Black community will demonize him to the max as they have done to Clarence Thomas. Cain probably won't get the Rep nomination, but could end up as a good Veep candidate. Certainly, he changes the dynamic of the discussion.
     
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    I hope that Cain saves the notion of a black president from being forever tied to Obama's failure.


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    What a crock of horse manure! If it had been JFK that had delivered that "I have a dream" speech, you would have had none of it. Having a "white boy" talk about having a dream that all whites and blacks would get along would have fell on deaf ears by most blacks, because blacks still think of themselves as "oppressed" by Whitey; never mind the fact that they now have more entitlements than they ever had before.
     
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    The GOP is running Cain? Huh? The establishment is trying to dismiss him, in fact. Which smoky room are you referring to.

    Cain is up in the polls due to grassroots voters, and the tea party. The spin is all the garbage you just wrote.
     
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    Why would Pres. Obama stop another black man from being elected, white men didn't stop being elected after Carter and Bush 41.
     
  13. paco

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    Obama ain't black. Obama's an Oreo cookie.

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    Yes I understand that, however from my experience in several mixed towns here in NY, there is MUCH more interest from the blacks. Just because the State says it's a National Holiday has nothing to do with it, it's up to the person as to it's importance... and is that not what we were talking about?
     
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    You are very correct, paco.

    The fact that many blacks never finish high school has a lot to do with the fact that so many of them resort to street gangs, commit serious crimes and end up in prison.

    And then they turn around and "think of themselves as "oppressed" by Whitey; never mind the fact that they now have more entitlements given to them by the U.S. taxpayers than they ever had before."
     
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    How many black men do you know personally that are in a street gang, have committed a serious crime or have been or are in prison.
     
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    maybe he doesn't associate with those types.

    good for him........
     
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    Personally, I know quite a few brothas that have been in and out of prison. It's typical of the species.
     
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    I knew a lot, since my business was car Insurance to mostly young people..and some whites as well of course. You have to deal with young people on a daily basis to know what is really going on..Especially in the minority neighborhoods, most average white folk do not hang in those neighborhoods..Us store owners do though..
    There is no doubt about it, poverty breeds crime. Has nothing to do with black,,,it has to do with poor.
     
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    Wow! Some deep paranoia in there. First, can you give us some indication - I'm not asking for proof - that Cain is being run? If true the days of Uncle Tom are not behind us at all and things are much worse than anyone thought. If he is being coerced or somehow pressured into running, then a special prosecutor should be appointed as there's too many crimes in your suggestion to list here.

    Secondly, to categorically state that Cain has zero chance of getting the nomination either shows delusional thinking or complete ignorance. While it may be true he doesn't get the nomination, he happens to be leading with a substantial margin right now.

    Thirdly the vote splitting you're talking about started long before anyone in here had even heard of Herman Cain.

    And fourth, if he has zero chance of getting the nomination how in daisy can he split the vote is he isn't on the ticket?

    But thanks anyway, as I originally intended to point out to the OP that the disenchantment with Owebama among blacks began a long time ago....in fact shortly after he bailed out Wall Street long before Herman Cain was in the race. What we're seeing now is that disenchantment gelling into a cohesive force, just like so many registered Democrats who are pissed off. But now that you've established that Owebama's declining numbers are Herman Cain's fault we can sleep better at night.
     
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    The way I see it, is that it all starts with poverty, the Government with the easy entitlements keeps them complacent financially. That's all many human beings need, they are then fed the victim argument which of course is accepted and used as an excuse. This is how you form a Democrat base...
    So says President Johnson......LOL

    I'm so glad my ancestors did not get Welfare....
     
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    How do you know who he associates with, do you know him personally.
     
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    Great quote. I find it more disturbing how many black voters thought Obama was actually going to do something for them. Little did they realize they would actually have to put effort into their own lives. The blame game is old and overplayed. Hopefully when racists like Sharpton and Jackson finally kick the bucket they wake up and evolve.
     
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    How many gangbangers did you sell car insurance to.

    If I am incarcerated why would I purchase car insurance?
     

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