Earthquake in Turkey

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  1. frozy

    frozy New Member

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    Recently Turkey had tightened relationship with it due to the attack on humanitarian aid ship, that was supposed to supply Palestine. It ended killing ca.15 Turks in the ship.
    Current Government openly shows their dislike towards Israeli Government,which I think makes PKK supporters having more affiliation towards Israel.
     
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    Very simple:
    Almost 60 Islamic states (22 Arab states) cry blood for the 6 million Palestinians to have an independent state while deny and fight the 60 million Kurds for asking an independent Kurdistan.
     
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    Maybe because Kurdistan spreads through 3 or 4 states and makes bigger percentage of their territory. If 22 Arab states were fighting for Palestine my lung Israel wouldn't ever entered the Palestine and did all those sieges, but they are against Israel because today's territory named Israel used to be part of neighboring Arab countries and former empires.:date: If you offer them significant amount of presents in terms of gold,silver,money in all currencies-they might support be supporting you one day :)
     
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    You want to say that only because the Palestinians are fewer they don't have the right to a state? Are you serios?
     
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    don't put words into my mouth, i am not against anyone's wish for statehood . There are countries with populations of 500,000 . but 40-60 million Kurds in Turkey Iran Iraq Syria and others world wide , the biggest stateless nation in the world deserves not just one but few countries .

    well one is only inches away from asking a seat at UN which is S.kurdistan (N.iraq)

    Western (Syrian) kurdistan part is also seeking self-determination or autonomy ... so it will be Northern kurdistan (Turkeys kurdistan) and Iran's kurdistan

     
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    Yes, but this just proved your "Because Kurds..." theory wrong ;)
     
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    it is not wrong it took turkish team to arrive after 24 hours !!! if it was in the turkish region of turkey it would have been instant .
     
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    You stated "Turkey rejected international aid because Kurds blah blah..". Yet Turkey accepted all the international aid. Funny to watch how the propaganda fails.
     
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    nope Turkey did reject all international aid at first , but then i dont know what happened they accepted them .
     
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    Maybe Turkey accepted the aid just because there are Kurds that live there.

    Oh wait, that arguement was only valid when it comes to rejecting it, right?
     
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    you are missing the point , Turkey rejected all aid at first when the disaster was still fresh , but a day later maybe someone pulled trkey's ear and they opened doors for aid otherwise at 1st it was rejected started from Israel .
     
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    :bored:maybe you should provide some sort of evidence?
    On the other hand their Government is already 'taking thier revenge' on Iraqi borders going directly after PKK and there is no reason for Turkish Government to reject 'all international aid'-why would they? by accepting 'all the international aid'-their aid would be less needed and if Turks are so against civilian Kurds why would they reject aid from some other side? do you really think that PKK can make them sacrifice their own image and risk their reputation for your sake?
     
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    Alan , its time you learnt not to believe everyything you read, it often change by the hour :


    iAfter earthquake, Turkey has proven it can get by on its ownAmong the rubble, and despite the lasting trauma from the quake of 1999, Turkey showed in its predominantly civil response to this week's disaster that it learned its lessons.

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    Says Ozgur Monkul, operations officer for the AKUT Search and Rescue Association, who arrived from Istanbul on the first night: "We came here with 16 trained teams, with 28 search dogs, and we rescued six survivors. I think we offered the right response. We have learned the lessons of 1999. Turkey can cope with an event of this size."

    Monkul insists there was no political significance to the refusal to accept search-and-rescue personnel from Israel: "We went through joint training in Israel with the Arava rescue team," he relates, "and we have good relations with them. But the Israelis as well as the other foreigners aren't needed here."

    Ankara has asked Israel and 30 other countries for portable structures to house the refugees. Rescue teams in Israel Defense Forces uniforms - no;

    portable housing made in Israel - yes.

    In light of the Israeli habit of patting itself on the shoulder- (blowing its own trumpet ) --- every time it extends humanitarian aid, one can understand Erdogan.



    READ MORE :

    http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-...s-own-1.392430


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    IMO As long as Israel refuse to apologise for the Turkish citizens it killed , its unlikely relationships (friendship) can be restored as before.


    bwt - "Never Forget "HALABJA" and "ANFAL" AND NEVER FORGET NAKBAH


    cheers...


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